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you would be very hard pressed to find a guy who has his modded rsx s running 13's on street tires.

i've raced a type s with my wrx back when it was bone stock, i would just leave the line quickly, and this guy didnt even bother with trying to take off fast(he didnt want to spin his tires)

he had intake, exhaust and no cat. it was loud, smelled, emmitted a little smoke when vtec kicked in and was quick

not until i was half way through 3rd would he catch up and slowly pass(~80mph)

btw, for those that dont know, 3rd gear in a stock WRX is a weak gear. thats where the ECU does the most boost drop off(14psi down to 7psi) and the 3 cats really bring down the efficiency of the turbo.

im not saying they are not fast little cars, its just that i know for a fact, that an ST-T is faster when at 8psi and open exhaust. i ran my ST-T at 3psi the day i completed the install and had it running properly

i adjusted the wastegatge rod so that it would only run 3psi and drove around open down pipe

boost hit at 2krpm with my t3 turbo, and it hit hard.

i took each of the 3 friends that helped me for a test ride, and on one test ride, i nailed it half way through 1st and in the shift to second the wheels broke loose, at only 3psi

then when i had the dp connected the the stock mid pipe i drove around for a while. and thats the time i raced the rsx s. from the midpipe back i had stock exhaust, including the cat. i was running 7psi on a cold night. caught up to him cuz he cut me off, and passed him like i said in an earlier post. from what i saw it definately had exhaust.

that was also the night i realised i was fuel cutting at full boost, i logged the SAFC and found that the map was reading positive presure, which when that happens, the ecu cuts fuel, bad for the engine, bad for acceleration.

btw my ST was automatic.

so, like i said, run 8psi, open exhuast(at the dp if possible) and practise launching in a way to take advantage of the ST's torquey first gear gearing, letting boost hit to give even better acceleration and then wind it through the gears keeping it in a gear as long as possible to take advantage of the wider powerband

you cant really compair a 3sgte to a 7afte. the 3s swap makes a lot of power, enough to the point where with street tires and an open diff, you will have lots of wheelspin problems in the 1/4 mile.

its not easy to pull off the times a turbo fwd car is capable of. my car was very easy to launch, power brake till boost builds to peak, and side step the brake.

with a 5spd, it will take some finesse, but its still easier to launch than an rsx type s which has no balls in 1st gear what so ever, and the only way to get good acceleration in 1st is to launch at a pretty high rpm and feather the gas, but that is hard to do, and can easily blow the race.

ST-T turbo , forced induction.... not naturally asperated. it isnt going to ass rape him i think he will win...

please leave things like that to pm

ive driven an alltrac and a neon srt and i think even the alltrac (st185) would take it.

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.