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> 3s distributor on a 5s?
post Jan 26, 2013 - 11:49 AM
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does a 3s distributor fit on a 5s? im looking to upgrade my electrical system with bigger wires and such but there are no distributors for the 5s kindasad.gif
i tried looking here but couldnt find anything so if there is a thread could you link it? thanks smile.gif

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post Jan 27, 2013 - 1:17 PM
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QUOTE (reliqhunter @ Jan 26, 2013 - 12:49 PM) *
does a 3s distributor fit on a 5s? im looking to upgrade my electrical system with bigger wires and such but there are no distributors for the 5s kindasad.gif
i tried looking here but couldnt find anything so if there is a thread could you link it? thanks smile.gif

The 5sfe does have a distributor, it is pre 97 maybe?
My 94 GT has a distributor for sure.

If you want to upgrade the ignition system I would suggest using an aftermarket external coil which could utilize the existing components. You could also switch to something like the 6AL or 7AL MSD Ignition module. It is capacitive discharge, so it would provide more complete ignition because it works by firing the plugs multiple times at higher power rather than one long weak spark. The MSD ignition is also capable of generating spark well over 10,000rpm.
Of course if you switch the ignition module, there will be some modification required. While you could probably piggyback it onto the existing sensors you would negate the need for the Ignitor and ECU controling spark. And Im sure the ECU is much better at mapping a 3-dimensional ignition map than an MSD ignition.

If you change the size of the plug wires without upgrading the coil you will shorten the spark duration. The wires have some inherant resistance, lowering the resistance makes the spark shorter but more powerful, increasing the resistance will make the spark last longer but it will be weaker. The toyota engineers had the math equations to calculate this, and Im sure they selected a wire type that was the best compromise between spark strength and spark duration given the OEM equipment.
post Jan 27, 2013 - 2:26 PM
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Bigger plug wires isn't always better. You won't gain anything going to 10mm wires if that's what you're looking for. The only time you should make your plug wires bigger is if it is necessary.


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post Jan 28, 2013 - 5:40 PM
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QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jan 27, 2013 - 2:17 PM) *
QUOTE (reliqhunter @ Jan 26, 2013 - 12:49 PM) *
does a 3s distributor fit on a 5s? im looking to upgrade my electrical system with bigger wires and such but there are no distributors for the 5s kindasad.gif
i tried looking here but couldnt find anything so if there is a thread could you link it? thanks smile.gif

The 5sfe does have a distributor, it is pre 97 maybe?
My 94 GT has a distributor for sure.

If you want to upgrade the ignition system I would suggest using an aftermarket external coil which could utilize the existing components. You could also switch to something like the 6AL or 7AL MSD Ignition module. It is capacitive discharge, so it would provide more complete ignition because it works by firing the plugs multiple times at higher power rather than one long weak spark. The MSD ignition is also capable of generating spark well over 10,000rpm.
Of course if you switch the ignition module, there will be some modification required. While you could probably piggyback it onto the existing sensors you would negate the need for the Ignitor and ECU controling spark. And Im sure the ECU is much better at mapping a 3-dimensional ignition map than an MSD ignition.

If you change the size of the plug wires without upgrading the coil you will shorten the spark duration. The wires have some inherant resistance, lowering the resistance makes the spark shorter but more powerful, increasing the resistance will make the spark last longer but it will be weaker. The toyota engineers had the math equations to calculate this, and Im sure they selected a wire type that was the best compromise between spark strength and spark duration given the OEM equipment.


i wanted to upgrade to an msd system but i couldnt find a 5s distributor to accept it
post Jan 28, 2013 - 5:44 PM
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let me clarify, i have a 95 GT and i want to upgrade the ignition system with msd blaster and ignition system for a better and stronger spark
post Jan 29, 2013 - 1:49 PM
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to gain what? less bank balance?


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post Jan 29, 2013 - 3:18 PM
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there is nothing wrong with the OEM ignition system. it will support anything that you do to your car.


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post Jan 29, 2013 - 11:26 PM
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JDM YO!!!

nah, get a used one if yours aint working... someone is parting around here, if it aint broke leave it alone


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post Jan 30, 2013 - 4:56 AM
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a new toyota genuine rotor, cap and lead set and some new plugs is all u need

do the air filter, fuel filter and an oil change and away u go


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