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post Mar 27, 2013 - 10:58 AM
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That's my problem! The mirrors are different! My mirrors have 7 wires and need the relay. The 5 wire mirrors are for the type where the polarity shift is in the switch.


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post Mar 27, 2013 - 11:10 AM
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do u gave the relay, i saw it on ebay?


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post Mar 27, 2013 - 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Mar 27, 2013 - 11:58 AM) *
That's my problem! The mirrors are different! My mirrors have 7 wires and need the relay. The wire mirrors are for the type where the polarity shift is in the switch.

Yeah..so evryone who wants jdm folding mirrors get the ones with 5 cables amd make sure you get the switch too MUCH EASIER

This post has been edited by diegohiga: Mar 27, 2013 - 11:20 AM


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post Mar 27, 2013 - 3:40 PM
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Mine are the 7-wire type too.

If there are no info about them available I will try to find out what the cables do and publish some schematics here.

I think I readed somwhere that the cabling of the non retractable mirrors also changed between 1995 and 1996 ?


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post Mar 27, 2013 - 8:27 PM
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That was the missing link in all of this. They thought the only difference was location of relay. Outside or in switch. But there is in fact a wiring change in the mirror with that too.


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post Mar 27, 2013 - 10:13 PM
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To avoid multiple posts i will add on.

So this is my experience, after reading all this 10 pages i came to the most helpful conclusion. The part that helpmed me the most was this! bowdown.gif


Im fixing my posts, here and bumping them




So how was i able to acomplish this. Simple. All yota cars prety much have the same coloring in wiring.


I did not use joint splicers. I use shrink wrap rubber with soldering. So is less messy. here are a few pics of my install.

1. Created my harness with 4 wires.. just for the retract and or restore funtions


2. Took out the whole loom of the door, and undid the electrical tape. Its easier to work with and then passed my cables there. Then i simply recovered the electrical tape.





3. Put everything back to its place, used wiring covers to protect the my harness from the passenger side all the way to the center console, where i would have the switch.

4. Wiring the mirror to the plug is easy. Soldering and shrikwrap. not a lot of mess.



5. I did not use my jdm switch. But i made progress with it..... ill explain later.


2nd Part. Mirror mounting.

1. Took the jdm mirror apart. it was a bit of pain, some screws from the bottom are too dificult and be careful not to damage them



2. To take it apart dont cut the harness,. to use the same harness, all you have to do is pick it apart. Any toyota pigtal can be done this way. biggrin.gif





this will make it easier for you. Make sure you take note where the wires plug back together....

3. i used my own usdm casings because i did no like the angles of the jmd, they are RHD this is the comparson, im pointing at JDM



4. after all this, i put everything back together and mounted the mirrors... laugh.gif

ls to be activated in the mirror i placed silicone diodes that guarantee energy to flow into one direction. So when retract is working, return does not get juice. (since they have the same feed)

I wired them to have the mirrors rectract all the time. if you feed the swtich they will return. Therefore if you wire it to the acc switch the mirrors will retract when you turn the car off and open when you turn it on. You can add switches to turn the whole system off/on at any point in the ground lead. or on demand folding in the switched lead.

I am looking for the original relay. in the meantime this works..... wink.gif I am working on a circuit to fold it with my alarm. or until i get the oem relay, whichever.....

part 4.


Now its best to have the pigtail. There might be a possibility of 2 relays with same part number, cause my wiring is different, I just simply matched the colors of the mirror wires to the relay. Its working beautiful. I took as many pics of my pigtail so everybody can see the colors.

If you have any doubts check your board and see if it matches mine. If it does, just copy the colors in the case you dont have a pigtail.

i will put a diagram of my wiring and corresponding pin numbers later. Alse an exploded view of the circuit board for matching.












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post Mar 27, 2013 - 10:16 PM
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this is relay current location



dont be fooled my multiple relays on the market similar outside, but work diferently







i will try to post more as i go....


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post Mar 28, 2013 - 5:44 PM
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Nice! that is 7wire mirrors, right ? can you post a pic of all the cables functions on the mirror connector ?



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post Mar 28, 2013 - 7:27 PM
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I will on Sunday heading to nashville


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post Mar 29, 2013 - 11:47 AM
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that would be great! I'm not in a hurry, the car is in a garage with a biig pile of snow in front of the door anyway biggrin.gif


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post Apr 10, 2013 - 3:14 AM
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I'm just buying some (like in the next couple of minutes hopefully tongue.gif). So it is worth spending extra to get the 5 wire ones from a '98, rather than the mirrors from a '94 that are in better condition and slightly cheaper but with 7 wires?

I was planning to hook up to my alarm system... partially for the cool factor, but also so I can tell when i've locked the car and don't need to walk back to double check tongue.gif So this means I can get away without having a relay at all, doesn't it?

None of the ones i'm looking at come with any relays, so I would need to purchase that separately - I noticed above there are several different 7 wire relays, are all of the 5 wire ones the same (Built into the switch)?

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: Found some ones from a '98 with the 5 wire. One decently sized mark, but generally pretty good. And a R561 switch from a '97. They are on japanese auctions, so I have somebody that is putting a bid on for me hopefully smile.gif

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post Sep 7, 2013 - 10:33 AM
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my left mirror don't folding to the end... How to fix it?

Thx for help smile.gif

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post Jan 27, 2014 - 2:35 PM
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So if it is an electric folding mirror, it doesn't matter what year it came from, all have a different angle compared to USDM housing since they are RHD?

The housing itself is the same, it's just at a different angle, no other differences from the outside?

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post Aug 2, 2014 - 8:00 AM
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Thread resurrection!

I just got my hands on a set of folding mirrors from a lucky find at a wrecker
and hope with the help of this thread I can figure out all the wiring trickery tongue.gif

I like a new challenge anyway



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