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post Jun 30, 2013 - 9:46 PM
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Okay so I bought a spree complete dash kit, and it finally arrived and I am attempting to install it.

I have got the climate control out, sort of... The two control wires are connected at the rear but not to the car allowing me to slide the unit out.
I can only see one of the light bulbs which I assume is the top row buttons on the unit. I wasn't given any instructions for this kit, despite clearly being told that I was going to.
I also do not know which LED goes where...
Any help would be appreciated frown.gif


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post Jun 30, 2013 - 9:55 PM
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What's funny was I bought the complete kit. Attempted to replace it all but ended up only replacing the gauge lights because everything else was a pain in the ass. The clock was weird, the climate wouldn't come out, ignitor plug light didn't want to come out, and the key ring was hard to get to. Lol.


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post Jun 30, 2013 - 9:59 PM
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Jun 30, 2013 - 9:55 PM) *
What's funny was I bought the complete kit. Attempted to replace it all but ended up only replacing the gauge lights because everything else was a pain in the ass. The clock was weird, the climate wouldn't come out, ignitor plug light didn't want to come out, and the key ring was hard to get to. Lol.

Haha


Well I have unscrewed the climate control and have it inside now, found the other two lights... But now to try and get them in >.<


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post Jun 30, 2013 - 10:23 PM
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Yeah, you need to unclip the cables in the drivers side footwell (RHD) to pull it out. Then it is still a bit of a pin and fiddling around with some long nose pliers but I am thinking about changing colour scheme again and wouldn't hesitate to pull it out again.... It isn't that hard tongue.gif


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post Jun 30, 2013 - 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (JoshuaM @ Jun 30, 2013 - 10:23 PM) *
Yeah, you need to unclip the cables in the drivers side footwell (RHD) to pull it out. Then it is still a bit of a pin and fiddling around with some long nose pliers but I am thinking about changing colour scheme again and wouldn't hesitate to pull it out again.... It isn't that hard tongue.gif

I got it out tongue.gif
And have all the LEDs in place and working smile.gif

Next to try and fix my Cigarette Lighter Ring and then the Ignition Ring biggrin.gif


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 1:10 AM
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Hey, can you post pictures(the kit and the process as a whole), if you don't mind. Or it's too late? kindasad.gif


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 1:14 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 1:10 AM) *
Hey, can you post pictures(the kit and the process as a whole), if you don't mind. Or it's too late? kindasad.gif

I already finished, but I can easily get some photos when I get a chance if you want...
This is just for the Climate Control Back-lighting not the button lights...


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 1:26 AM
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I'll be doing to whole process myself soon and I am sure there are other threads with info, but some more is never bad. smile.gif


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 1:44 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 1:26 AM) *
I'll be doing to whole process myself soon and I am sure there are other threads with info, but some more is never bad. smile.gif

I'll walk you through the process now, and add some photos later (If I get a chance)

Basically I followed this:
Tools Used:
Long Nose Pliers
Flat Head Jewelers Screwdriver
Phillips Head Screwdriver to remove Trim Screws.
Panel Removal Tools (Optional)

LEDs Used:
x3 8mm Neo Wedge (I THINK these are what they are, I may be wrong)

Method:
1) Pop the hood and unclip the CC Control Wire from the firewall and then push the hook out of the pin. (Use long nose pliers)
2) In the drivers side near your feet (For me it was on the left hand side), there is another control wire, detach it.
(Everyone was posting photos of a black and blue control wire, but I had black and white >.<)
3) Get to work removing the centre panel, easy to do this. Unclip the shift surround, unscrew the screws and remove the large centre panel.
4) Unscrew the CC unit, and slowly bring it forward. Remove the two Wire Harnesses from the rear.
5) Unscrew gold/copper coloured screws: 3 screws on top and 3 on the bottom and then remove the heat knob and detach the rear part (this will allow you to have the CC out of the car, and the Contol Wires still in the car.
6) On the rear of the CC unit, there are 3 twist sockets with little bulbs with green condoms. Untwist ONE using long nose pliers. It is very important you do one at a time or you may get confused about which has been done, and how to get them back in.
7) using a flat head jewelers screwdriver (or any small flat head) unclip the feet of the bulb from the twist socket, and then pull the bulb up (It may be easier to remove the condom fist)
8) Remove the SMD LED from its plastic surround and feed the feet through the twist socket following the same pattern as the OEM bulbs, leave a bit of slack in the top of the SMD feet so that you can angle it into the socket, the SMD I had was slightly too large, but angling it in worked smile.gif
9) Re-twist in the new SMD socket, and then go to the car, plug the Harnesses Back in and make sure the LED works. If not, untwist it and reverse the polarity. If it still doesn't work, you may have damaged the LED (Very Easy to do by accident).
10) Repeat for the other two lights and viola! It is now LED back lit.
11) Re-insert the CC unit and make sure the Control Wires are alright and still in the correct place. Then attach them.
12) Screw the CC unit back in and then TEST the heat knob and fan speed knob, if they are hard to turn or impossible to turn, you have to redo the Control Wires as they are not in the correct place.


To replace the Green Coloured Button LEDs I believe that you have to further disasemble the CC unit and actually solder on new LEDs... I didn't attempt this yet, but I may soon since I have the LEDs laying around from my Window Switch Blue LED Conversion.


EDIT:
Also give yourself around 2-4 hours to do this. Even though it is very simple, it is daunting the first time and you must be very patient when reinserting the new LED twist socket. Removing the trim and the CC unit took me 30mins; fitting the LEDs too me 5mins each socket; but, reinserting them took a good 30mins for the first one and around 20mins each for the other two
If you run into problems this time may be blown out. I also too a lot of breaks as I am generally an impatient person and get pissed at the car very easily; when that happened I walked away and got a coffee inside, then came back when calm.
Including the breaks, the whole process took me 4 hours total.

This post has been edited by rentaspace: Jul 1, 2013 - 1:50 AM


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 1:55 AM
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Thanks you!
I'll be doing the speedo and the whole dash, every single light will be changed to white.
But first I have to order all the different bulbs and LEDs. I'll start lurking around to see in which place goes what type of bulb socket.


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 2:02 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 1:55 AM) *
Thanks you!
I'll be doing the speedo and the whole dash, every single light will be changed to white.
But first I have to order all the different bulbs and LEDs. I'll start lurking around to see in which place goes what type of bulb socket.

Well behind the dash there is 3 T10 bulbs for the main Back lighting.
And then all the little lights for the Check Engine/Oil/Fuel ETC are T5

The Passenger Luggage Compartment and the Asktray are also both T5 LEDs, I got the kind where there are 3 small LEDs that can be split, this allows you to disperse the light in the direction needed for the Asktray and Luggage Compartment.

Here is a guide I made when I first Joined:
7-Step LED Guage Conversion


I have also done the Power Window Switch to blue, that involves removing the switch, cutting the Green LED and then all I did was solder on a blue LED smile.gif Easy Stuff

This post has been edited by rentaspace: Jul 1, 2013 - 2:07 AM


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 2:16 AM
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Hijacked your thread lol
Power window switch is not that noticeable for me to switch up. Maybe in the future tho.

What type of bulbs did you exactly use on your gauges and is the light evenly spaced out with no low/high spots?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p...0&_from=R40


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 2:25 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 3:16 AM) *
Hijacked your thread lol
Power window switch is not that noticeable for me to switch up. Maybe in the future tho.

What type of bulbs did you exactly use on your gauges and is the light evenly spaced out with no low/high spots?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p...0&_from=R40

I have used both:

5SMD


4SMD Flat

The flat ones had a dark bit in the top of the cluster.
The 5SMD linked ones are hard to fit properly, and I actually broke one of the clear plastic light guides inside the cluster inserting the LED... I have also had a few LEDs of each die on me... They really do not like any Voltage Fluctuation, so once in, start the car before turning the lights on and turn lights off before turning car off.

If I had to choose, I would say use the 5SMD style (That's what Spree Uses).


Look around and you can get them really cheap; the guy trying to get £52.99 is just ripping people off...


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 2:40 AM
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Yeah, it makes sense what you are saying, the flat ones look to have a direction they lit up and the 5SMD ones seem to disperse it all around them.
Would you say it was poor quality build that was the cause of breaking and lights burning off?
I have this idea in my head to black out the gauge's glass so when the car is turned off you can't see a thing. Let's hope the white ones will be strong enough to see through once lit up.

I'll look locally or within my country.


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 2:52 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 3:40 AM) *
Yeah, it makes sense what you are saying, the flat ones look to have a direction they lit up and the 5SMD ones seem to disperse it all around them.
Would you say it was poor quality build that was the cause of breaking and lights burning off?
I have this idea in my head to black out the gauge's glass so when the car is turned off you can't see a thing. Let's hope the white ones will be strong enough to see through once lit up.

I'll look locally or within my country.

Honestly I think it is voltage fluctuations that cause the issue with them...



But back to my install: the LEDs light up the two control knobs very well, but the AC/ECON switch is almost invisible, and the air selection buttons are also very dim kindasad.gif


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As you can see the light isn't being dispersed well kindasad.gif don't know what to do about this kindasad.gif

This post has been edited by rentaspace: Jul 1, 2013 - 3:22 AM


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 3:14 AM
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Isn't there an individual LED for each button that needs to be changed?
Seems like the button's light is "left over" from the rotating switches LEDs.
What happens when you click on the buttons, originally it will lit up green/yellow only when pressed?


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post Jul 1, 2013 - 3:22 AM
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QUOTE (The_enD @ Jul 1, 2013 - 3:14 AM) *
Isn't there an individual LED for each button that needs to be changed?
Seems like the button's light is "left over" from the rotating switches LEDs.
What happens when you click on the buttons, originally it will lit up green/yellow only when pressed?

The individual LED in each light is a green or orange LED, and that only indicates whether that selection is selected or not kindasad.gif

I might have to go back in and adjust the angle on the LED closest to that side kindasad.gif


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it wont disperse well, trust me.. ive tried, leave it like that... the plastic gadget inside wont disperse led light


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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jul 1, 2013 - 9:29 AM) *
it wont disperse well, trust me.. ive tried, leave it like that... the plastic gadget inside wont disperse led light

Damn kindasad.gif that's disappointing


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