 Smaay ! V6 vs. Beams, Let's do this ! |
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 Sep 30, 2013 - 6:28 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%)  |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 30, 2013 - 6:18 PM)  QUOTE That is what I wanted an that is what I built. I built it to be different an it worked. If it catches on an more being do it cool. If not...cool. I did it for me. I realize that now. best post in this dumbass thread. comparing a v6 that makes 95% of its power below 5k rpm, and a I4 that makes 90% of its power above 4500rpm is really stupid, imo. it really is all about how the individual wants the car to feel, and drive. the best way to find out which setup is for you is to seek out someone who has whatever setup your interested in, and drive it, or at least ride in it. if 5-600$ diffrence between one setup or the other is the determining factor on a swap, you shouldnt be swapping, period. if your doing a swap because someone told you one setup is better than another, you should be swapping, period. Yea I'm the smartest dumbass lol -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235  n |
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Sep 30, 2013 - 7:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 4, '12 From Findlay,oh Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I'm not jumping in on the debate cause I love my husband and I am proud of the work we have done on the v6 and at some point I would love for my 7a to be a beams. But the biggest kick I've gotten in a while is to know he's the smartest dumbass....lol
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Sep 30, 2013 - 9:12 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The trophy is already in the mail.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Sep 30, 2013 - 10:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Sep 30, 2013 - 9:12 PM) The trophy is already in the mail. Sweet!! -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 1, 2013 - 2:01 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 30, 2013 - 6:18 PM) ...a v6 that makes 95% of its power below 5k rpm... Aaaaah. I want V6! (or diesel  )QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 30, 2013 - 6:18 PM) it really is all about how the individual wants the car to feel, and drive Manny  ... Lets carve this quote to the stone for next generations. That is exactly why not much people get why I do with car things I do  . Why I paid for custom build turbine, why it rented dyno for whole day to have map that meets my expectation...
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Oct 1, 2013 - 11:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 1, '12 From iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 30, 2013 - 6:18 PM) ...a v6 that makes 95% of its power below 5k rpm... Obviously... Because it does redline at 5k lol jk |
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Oct 1, 2013 - 12:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 4, '12 From Findlay,oh Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (blackliftback @ Oct 1, 2013 - 12:49 PM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 30, 2013 - 6:18 PM) ...a v6 that makes 95% of its power below 5k rpm... Obviously... Because it does redline at 5k lol jk Kurt says nope 6200 |
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Oct 1, 2013 - 12:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Well fuel cut is at 6200 lol
My first gear lives near there most days lol -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 1, 2013 - 12:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
something i want to make real clear here. This is a friendly debate over a choice in engines. I am not attacking anyone personally or tried to, nor have i taken any difference of opinion personally. Sure disagreements can get heated, but i want everyone to know, nothing is personal. With that said, time for some funnies.
I challenge anyone to make better ones.      
This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 1, 2013 - 12:55 PM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
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Oct 1, 2013 - 1:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Love the last one
Any car meme that uses that lil boys pic is instantly funny lol -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 1, 2013 - 1:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
oops i got typos, oh well
 Ill take this one down if it offends anyone, I had to drop an FBomb in there somewhere 
This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 1, 2013 - 1:14 PM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
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Oct 1, 2013 - 1:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 1, 2013 - 1:55 PM) something i want to make real clear here. This is a friendly debate over a choice in engines. I am not attacking anyone personally or tried to, nor have i taken any difference of opinion personally. Sure disagreements can get heated, but i want everyone to know, nothing is personal. With that said, time for some funnies. I challenge anyone to make better ones. QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 1, 2013 - 2:13 PM) oops i got typos, oh well Ill take this one down if it offends anyone, I had to drop an FBomb in there somewhere They are funny. I'm secure enough in my Beamshood to not let this bother me because I know the truth. I'm not going to play with your little challenge, I'm not a douche bag. I don't feel I need a funny meme to prove a point, I just use facts. Nothing personal. -------------------- |
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Oct 1, 2013 - 2:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 16, '12 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Please don't hate me, but I'm searching for a Beams swap for a while and can't find any decent with axles or even a whole front cut
 I'm sorry to junk this thread with that, but search button wasn't my friend, nor was the ebay and I'm searching that because my engine is slowly increasing the amount of oil consumption. Any websites or anything welcome! So yes, also my vote goes for Beams, since living in Europe I was able to drive 3S Celicas and I love the 7k or more redlining but I can't say anything against V6 since I don't know how they perform in our cars and you always have to at least respect the amount of labor, love, enthusiasm and ofcoure money was put in something like swapping totally different engine especially doing it first without any info behind. And looking Smaays video, that V6 is a BEAST in the car Cheers EDIT: I forgot to mention, my car is AT, not ST chassis 
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Oct 1, 2013 - 2:26 PM
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All you need for a BEAMS is the motor, harness, and ECU. It uses the same trans as a GT so it will use the same axles. Huge bonuses for a BEAMS set are the OEM intake a B pipe, though neither is 100% necessary.
/ thread jack. This post has been edited by richee3: Oct 1, 2013 - 2:26 PM -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
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Oct 1, 2013 - 2:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I will concur, the BEAMS is an easier swap.
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Oct 1, 2013 - 11:36 AM) I'm not going to play with your little challenge, I'm not a douche bag. I don't feel I need a funny meme to prove a point, I just use facts. Nothing personal. No comment This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 1, 2013 - 2:39 PM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
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Oct 1, 2013 - 4:00 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
power for beams is at 7k rpm
max power for 1mzfe?? -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Oct 1, 2013 - 4:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
According to factory flywheel numbers the BEAMS gives a gain of 62 hp over the 5S, so where did 40 come from? I'm all up for the V6, as by now if you don't know that I love torque you've been living under a rock. Though after looking on eBay I don't see how the BEAMS can cost that terribly much more at this point. I've seen a lot of them now for $1,400 or less and that's including the engine, LSD transmission, harness, and ECU. Some even include the MAF sensor as well. From looking at recent V6 swaps the only way I can see getting it done for the same amount of money would be to find a Camry/Solara donor for about $500. Then still need the custom mount, harness, and half-shafts and few other niggles here and there. It'd be great if the V6 could be brought to the plug and play level the BEAMS has.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 1, 2013 - 4:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:00 PM) power for beams is at 7k rpm max power for 1mzfe?? The Solara had 200 hp at 5,200 RPM and 214 ft lb at 4,400 RPM. If you find the rare TRD supercharged one hp and torque go to 242. The 1MZ in the Lexus ES made a little more than the Solara, but it required premium. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 1, 2013 - 4:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:39 PM) QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:00 PM) power for beams is at 7k rpm max power for 1mzfe?? The Solara had 200 hp at 5,200 RPM and 214 ft lb at 4,400 RPM. If you find the rare TRD supercharged one hp and torque go to 242. The 1MZ in the Lexus ES made a little more than the Solara, but it required premium. I need to check my ecu again I might be running the wrong gas lol QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:00 PM) power for beams is at 7k rpm max power for 1mzfe?? Here's an idea You an smaay live in the same state why don't you guys meet up at a track an see who's faster -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 1, 2013 - 4:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:46 PM) QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 1, 2013 - 4:00 PM) power for beams is at 7k rpm max power for 1mzfe?? Here's an idea You an smaay live in the same state why don't you guys meet up at a track an see who's faster Why didn't anyone think of this ages ago? 
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