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So was this sentra a DET swapped SR or a n/a bolt on?

Being an owner of both 3SGTE and SR20DET/VE/VET, I wouldn't say one is more reliable that the other. Clearly this is a bias forum, but from my perspective Eric is correct.

LS1 & T-56

Problem solved.

Sounds like a boat. I'll pass, thanks!

It was a Sentra DET swapped with minor upgrades. so you think Eric is correct in general that the SR is a better motor? or his perspective on platform?

why would you compare apples and oranges?!

Beacuse why compare apples to apples, they both taste the same, and so do oranges, you can make OJ

add tequila

I see some point to what this guys said, but I don't agree with a lot of it. I think the guy should swap a 3s, quit reading import tuner trash, and see what happens when the rubber meets the road. I'd love to see a "heavy" cast iron block beat the **** out of an SR. I would imagine having a little extra weight in the front would be advantageous in a drift vehicle. As for the differences

Cast Iron is stronger
3s Valvetrain is better
Stock turbo is better
The use of a timing belt over a chain in a non-interference set up is advantageous (runs smoother)
Tuning by Yamaha is more aggressive and better

I see the coil on plug in the sr as a big advantage, but this is also doable in the 3s

The sr is dime a dozen for a reason...they've become disposable motors
The 3s is expensive for a reason...it's the $hit.

I'm going to disagree with your belt vs chain arguement, as chain is better for higher RPMS, more durable and less maintenance....sooo if you're going to drift a chain is safer than a belt. Chains are less likely to jump teeth, shred parts and are more rugid. Belts are rip/tear/shred and require replacing.

3s is expensive for a reason......cause nobody keeps them around except a select few. not because its the ****; no supply cause no demand.
Not to mention they only came in 2 cars......from the 1990s (or earlier) in the US.

Cast iron is stronger can also be argued as the 3s has a tendancy to crack blocks and run a cylinder lean. A sleeved aluminum block that is properly tuned is just as good if not better....Tell me when you last saw a cast iron block in a supercar?


saying better with no real information is weaksauce

Just because I feel like throwing my hat in the ring, the primary reason supercars use aluminum engines is because they're aluminum...

We're talking about manufacturers that charge a $25,000+ premium for a 50 pound weight savings if I'm not mistaken. They use aluminum because they are looking to save every single gram of weight on the car, and this essentially means the blueprint is aluminum block, and carbon fiber everything else.

Everything else you've covered can be argued back and forth to death.

This post has been edited by cardshark525: Dec 26, 2013 - 9:34 PM

I'd rather brake the belt drifting on a non-interference engine than a chain any day. You'd have to scrap the chain driven engine and start over.
The cylinder lean situation can be cured through proper tuning. IIRC cylinder 2 and 3 tend to run more lean due to the fact that they sit right under the throttle body. The cracked block issue can happen for several reasons as well. Primarily running too much power over 500 if my memory serves me well, but this can also be caused by poor tune, bad gas, a bad build or too much boost. I'm sure the same scenario can exist in the SR platform as well. Either way...I think the guy from Eric Hsu's comment should go for it, and see how well it does!

It's hard to compare, simply cause ALL of my SR20's from DE to VE have all been very reliable. Same with all of my 3S as well. Right now it's even harder to compare simply cause my car is a stock block SR20VE, which is a far more superior motor than a DET or a 3SGTE

Can you explain this one for me? Cause what information I look at online seems to be lacking numbers in comparison to the 3sgte, unless you are speaking of the VET version, which still appears to be short of the stock 3rd Gen 3sgte we all commonly love.

Hey, can I get one of those SR20's? It just sounds so awesome. Eric says Yes! I'm gonna do it.

What a jerk. It's like asking your mom if you can go play on the street. Screw Eric, (who I don't know personally, Im sure is a nice guy, and therefore don't mean any actual offence to) but carve your own path.