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post Feb 27, 2004 - 12:05 PM
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when i'm driving like from 0- 80kmh it's fine and everything steering is still stiff. but when i'm like going pass 90km/h + the steering wheel starts to lighten up and wobble. like krazy. before i thought it was the problem of my mags due to warpage and unbalanced. so then i bought a new set of rims that were much lighter and are properlly balanced. it is a lil bet better now, but has anyone have this problem before. i would really like to fix this to enhance the handling of my celica.
post Feb 27, 2004 - 1:13 PM
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I have a simaler problem, around when im goin like 70mph an up, the stering wheel starts shaking real bad htne stops then shaks then stops.... i have no clue, but i migh be having it checked out this weekend, if i find out, il post it on here
post Feb 27, 2004 - 1:17 PM
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My dash seems to shake when im going up hill on the way to cali. doing +80mph. Also shakes when my A/C is on.
post Feb 27, 2004 - 1:53 PM
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I have a similar problem, and I find that for some reason, if I change the oil, and run premium, it stops. this usually happens if I've been driving really hard, I'm thinking its a pretty serious problem, I plan to have it looked at.



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post Feb 27, 2004 - 3:47 PM
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I've had this problem and it also happens worse when hard braking from those higher speeds. I think mine's because of a flat tire I had once and I drove on it for about 4 miles not knowing I had a flat...it might have warped the rim. My car also sat on a flat tire when it got slashed one night and that might cause some harm if it's sitting on a flat tire for 12 hours. No clue, but I don't care...my Rex is now for high speeds and Celica just looks pretty and sounds neat.


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post Feb 27, 2004 - 4:25 PM
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Take your car and have your wheels balanced, probably costs 20 bucks and will solve the problem almost definately, well first thing inspect your tires for faults before anything, new tires make a world of difference, if none of that works have your alignment checked, or better yet have it all checked at once.

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post Feb 27, 2004 - 4:55 PM
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it's also worth checking that your brake discs aren't warped.. I had this on my SR.. I had the brakes skimmed (after having all the wheels balanced and the caar tracked) and the problem is gone.
post Feb 28, 2004 - 1:12 AM
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I just got inducted into this club after driving tonight and reading this post smile.gif HARD stop on the freeway- LOTS of burning rubber. Had the top down, smoke everywhere. Yay. Didn't hit the IDIOT minivan in front of me tho... so thats good..

Now it's got more steering wheel shake than it did before. DAMMIT. But I'm probably gonna get new breaks and tires soon.. soo..


and tomorrow I'm gonna check the tire pressure on all my wheels. I dunno why, just seemed like the only thing I could do..
post Feb 28, 2004 - 2:58 AM
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If its your rotors your only going to get pulsating when breaking, most noticable when coming to a stop.
post Feb 28, 2004 - 3:23 AM
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unblanced wheels, worped brake disk, worn bushings, lose lug nuts, blow shocks or springs, frame damage those are all things that could cause your steering wheel to shake at high speed... as for the wheel getting loser thats normal with cars that have power steering. thats to you control easier at high speed.


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post Feb 29, 2004 - 10:32 AM
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if you have aftermarket rims, then your problem is probably caused by the fact that your new rims are not hub centric. i had the same thing happend to me and the problem went away after i bought a set of hub centirc rings for my wheels. they cost about 40$ and i got them from www.justforwheels.com

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post Mar 3, 2004 - 12:37 AM
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yeah my tires are brand new. before i had old rims and tires and thought that they might be warped so i got brand spanking new rims and tires. the problem is a little bit better. this time i'm going to get my rotors remachined and then a four wheel alightment hoping this fixes the problem. it gets scary going fast liek that man.
post Mar 3, 2004 - 2:13 AM
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Well, I retract my statements. The shaking got worse after that, but no where NEAR as bad as a perfectly fine Civic EX I drove the next day. Shaking so bad at 85 I didn't dare take it any faster.
post Mar 3, 2004 - 3:41 AM
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QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Feb 28, 2004 - 12:58 AM)
If its your rotors your only going to get pulsating when breaking, most noticable when coming to a stop.

not quite true - if you have a warped disk it will throw the whole rotational balance you.. think of how a gyroscope works.. if you have a weight or imbalance on one section, it will spin but 'wobble'.

I had warped sisks on my SR, and anything over 40mph would create a shake through the steering wheel which got progressively worse the faster i went - when braking it was 10 times as bad..
post Mar 6, 2004 - 4:02 PM
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I'm going nuts trying to find the source of my shake. So far I've replaced both axle's, rotors and pads, wheel bearings, tires and had the car aligned. The wheel balance was checked at two diff. shops. Each time I've changed something it has gotten better but still won't go away. I usually feel it from 60-70 then again around 85. Anyone have any ideas?
post Mar 6, 2004 - 5:40 PM
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I get it from 65-78mph, but nowhere after that. Wheel vibrates a little bit at idle too though. Weird thing is, after I've been driving for a while on it, it'll even out a bit and won't do it as much. Who knows, maybe our cars just aren't meant to go in that range of speed lol..

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post Mar 7, 2004 - 8:07 PM
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QUOTE (AudioFreak @ Mar 6, 2004 - 2:02 PM)
I'm going nuts trying to find the source of my shake. So far I've replaced both axle's, rotors and pads, wheel bearings, tires and had the car aligned. The wheel balance was checked at two diff. shops. Each time I've changed something it has gotten better but still won't go away. I usually feel it from 60-70 then again around 85. Anyone have any ideas?

Start eliminating things,,, 1st, if you have aftermarket wheels, definitely check out the hubcentric rings mentioned above, Toyota definitely uses the hubcentric design. 2nd, swap wheels for a day with another Celica with stock wheels that is smooth. 3rd most likely, someone used an impact wrench on your lugs and warped the rotors, try loosening them all and retightening them by hand, (preferably with a torque wrench).
4: find a shop with a new balancing machine,, I once had to try 4 shops to get one with a good machine. Same guy was apparently going around calibrating all the local machines and doing it wrong or theyt had all just been worn out. stumbled across a shop with a new machine (delivered that same day), had him check the balance as I had been to the 3rd shop, a Goodyear store, the day before. ALL 4 Wheels were out at least a half ounce. it was finally smooth as glass all the way to 90 (as fast as i wanted to go) after doing it on a brand-new balancer machine.
5: all your tires are bad, or at least more than 1, I fought a similar prob once where it turned out 3 of 4 speed-rated Michelins were bad, and causing a pull and light shake, no matter how I swapped them around, I couldn't get rid of the prob, ended up at the dealer, they jacked up another car and swapped all 4 wheels for a test - no more prob!!!

ALL of the above assumes there is no physical problem with the car like a bad tie-rod end or strut etc...any good alignment shop will check all that b4 they even attempt to align it.
post Mar 8, 2004 - 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Feb 29, 2004 - 7:32 AM)
if you have aftermarket rims, then your problem is probably caused by the fact that your new rims are not hub centric. i had the same thing happend to me and the problem went away after i bought a set of hub centirc rings for my wheels. they cost about 40$ and i got them from www.justforwheels.com

I was gonna buy those hub centric rings and they ask for the year.

90-96 or 86-96. I have a 95.......would they be the same??
post Mar 8, 2004 - 5:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure I found my problem. I put both front wheels in back and the vibe is all but gone at any speed. I've got the hub rings and I always use a torque wrench so that rules out a couple of things. This weekend I'm gonna try another place for balancing and see what happens. The saga continues. rolleyes.gif
post Mar 10, 2004 - 1:42 AM
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I've just got a wheel alignment and the problem still persists. I just remachiend both my front rotors today and going to remachine the backs later this week. I'm going to try to balace all four wheels at my school and see how it is. My teacher suspects that the bushings for our suspension maybe warn out.

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