Adding a supercharger to 3sgte, Just a thought |
Adding a supercharger to 3sgte, Just a thought |
Dec 30, 2013 - 9:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '08 From Raleigh NC Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Hey there guys its been awhile...everything's been going great with my build and she still runs like a top. With Ben upgrading his cams and turbo, I've been thinking a lot about an idea That popped in my mind long ago...
Now I know that twin turbos on the 3sgte is pretty useless. But what about adding a supercharger to spool the turbo? I myself have no idea if this will work and the only reason I'm entertaining this idea is because Ben and Brian didnt just shove it off when I asked them about it, which makes me think it might be doable and somewhat worth it? If there's no way in hell this could happen lemme hear it...but I'm pretty sure Alex still has his old SC layin around and I would hate for that to go to waste. What's up guys am I just dreaming? |
Dec 30, 2013 - 10:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
With modern turbo technology being what it is, there is really no reason why you can't have fast spool and big power. There is no need to add anything on top of that to help with spool. Just buy the right turbo for your application. That's all there is to it.
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Dec 30, 2013 - 10:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '13 From Cal Bay Area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The finished product would primarily be a curiosity. That is to say, it would not have a significant performance advantage over a build that had only a turbo or a supercharger and the same amount of effort. It would just be really neat. If you just want better turbo response there are many ways. A stroker block for instance would be cheaper and easier than adding a supercharger to the turbo engine.
edit VVV is Smaay threatening to twin charge down here?? VVV idk! =o This post has been edited by H8TRAIN: Dec 31, 2013 - 12:10 AM |
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I have a few trick up my sleeve. Anything is possible with enough money
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Dec 31, 2013 - 2:27 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 25, '08 From England Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Johnny Milners old Celica
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5240/590288...77e6f4fb2_o.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/590288...0353b0c77_o.jpg This post has been edited by Nial: Dec 31, 2013 - 2:28 AM -------------------- |
Dec 31, 2013 - 11:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
i would like to see a twin-charged 3sgte
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Dec 31, 2013 - 12:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
insta torque with top end is always fun
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Dec 31, 2013 - 12:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 25, '08 From England Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
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Dec 31, 2013 - 6:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I could see this being wonderful with the steady traction of AWD, almost the perfect combination - engine always giving power, wheels always able to put it down. I may be salivating...
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
'93 MX-5 LE |
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
like i said, i have something in the works
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jan 2, 2014 - 2:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
like i said, i have something in the works Copying Frank's 2ZZ? -------------------- |
Jan 2, 2014 - 3:27 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
considering something like that, i dont want to divulge too much in case it never happens
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jan 4, 2014 - 9:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '09 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Hey there guys its been awhile...everything's been going great with my build and she still runs like a top. With Ben upgrading his cams and turbo, I've been thinking a lot about an idea That popped in my mind long ago... Now I know that twin turbos on the 3sgte is pretty useless. But what about adding a supercharger to spool the turbo? I myself have no idea if this will work and the only reason I'm entertaining this idea is because Ben and Brian didnt just shove it off when I asked them about it, which makes me think it might be doable and somewhat worth it? If there's no way in hell this could happen lemme hear it...but I'm pretty sure Alex still has his old SC layin around and I would hate for that to go to waste. What's up guys am I just dreaming? It can be done with the V-5 that Alex has, but not in the manner you are thinking. The V-5 can flow way more air than your stock turbo (750cfm @ 14psi), so you wouldn't want to feed the turbo with that supercharger. The problem I had with the 7a is that the supercharger was too big for that engine, but it still made decent power once it was making enough boost to overcome spinning the supercharger. You'd be better off feeding the supercharger with the turbo or having a combined system with a valve that switches between the two once one flows more than the other, but I don't think that setup would be worth the time or effort. If I was going to do it I'd run the turbo into an intercooler into the S/C then back through an intercooler to the engine and add water/meth. If that didn't work so great I'd work on the combined piping system. Also remember that a centrifugal supercharger is not going to give you instant boost, it has to "spool up" with engine speed. Boost with a centrifugal is pretty linear to RPM's. If you decide to get the supercharger from Alex, let me know and I'll be happy to help out. |
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