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since ford/gm uses a superstrut near identical system on their newer vehicles here's a diagram and explanation as to pros over mcpherson



Splitting the steering and suspension functions does wonders for front-end geometry. The steering axis (an imaginary line around which the knuckle pivots) is more vertically oriented and located closer to the tire’s centerline. This shortens the effective spindle length and moves the center of the tire contact patch nearer to the intersection of the steering axis and the ground, yielding a significantly smaller scrub radius [see diagram]. Since a long spindle and a large scrub radius are key contributors to torque steer, any reduction of these dimensions benefits steering feel and directional stability.

Another benefit is significantly reduced camber change (the tilt of the tire away from a vertical orientation) as the car is steered off-center. Keeping the tire more perpendicular to the road during turning is a boon to handling.

I have these here and going to fit them to one of my st205s in the morning the other one I have is converted to McPherson so hope to do a comparison test afterwords
I was in the very workshop these were made while travelling Europe this summer and the lads who did them are great lads and very professional I was very happy with them and with the price they are selling for I can see the McPherson conversions become less common over here. their poly bushings they use are harder than OEM but not rock solid they are perfect in my opinion as they improve the handling without making it too hard that it is undriveable.

Does anyone know Cusco lower arm bar ver.II fit to st202 superstrut?

Cusco official site show that ver.II only fit with st205.

all 94-99 celica use same front subframe geometry. Meaning super strut suspension bolts on either RHD or LHD subframes

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 11, 2015 - 5:47 PM

superstrut and McPherson subframes are different
superstrut: 51201-20310
McPherson: 51201-20300

the only difference I am aware of is the steering rack brackets are located differently, the subframe share the same chassis mounting points so as its a lower bar id reckon it will fit as it would most likely work of these mounting points but the subframes are not identical.

ok thats what i meant to say. read thru the thread and you can see i already posted that a while back ago.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 19, 2013 - 8:32 PM

quick question guys.
Can I interchange ss3 superstrut and gt4 superstrut parts? if yes, which ones?

Thanks

This post has been edited by Red123: Jan 20, 2014 - 3:53 PM

Ss2, ss3 and gt4 supertruts setups are all the same. Only difference is the springrate on the gt4 due to extra weight from the drivetrain. Obviously the steeringrack is different on rhd/lhd cars

Thanks

In case you will buy used super strut parts. I recommend you to avoid GT4. Almost GT4's figure8 were worn out.

Here is an old best motoring video of an ae101 superstrut explained, sadly its in japanese...... it starts at 3:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IK5z7rCr-M

ah yes i posted a link to that video on the previous page

QUOTE (malpaso @ Feb 14, 2011 - 4:30 AM)

so the part numbers between mcpherson and superstrut front top suspension mounts are different.

Mcpherson Top Mount ST202/ST204/AT200 = 48609-20401 http://toyotamarket.ru/us/252470/019/2/4803/1/48609/

SuperStrut Top Mount ST202/ST205 = 48609-20240 http://toyotamarket.ru/jp/252170/003/2/4803/1/48603/

ST185 and ST184 Celica = 48609-20240 http://toyotamarket.ru/us/252460/019/2/4803/1/48609A/

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Apr 30, 2015 - 9:34 PM

Bonzai the superstut top mount has a bearing that allows it slightly to rotate when you turn the wheel . The McPherson is mounted in solid rubber only

Something i tried to explain to u mr.bonzai. Yet u conpletely ignored me.... (Top hats)

Well you didn't know they were identical top hats as the 5gc

I'll he sure to add it to the how to guide very soon

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Apr 30, 2015 - 9:35 PM

Yes that's true they're different. Thought you'd already know?



It's also a good quick reference to help differentiate between a SS-II & SS-III's (or a SS-II SS) with an engine bay photo - when you can't see model plate on firewall. Helpful for guys importing a 1/2 cut, and doing the swap themselves.

Hi there, I need some help regarding the superstrut suspension.

I have a carina GTI which shares a simular superstrut suspension to the celica st205. I have been looking at some coilovers from BC, and they told I could use the spindle from my car, and weld on the coilovers from the st205 so that they would fit my car. Any thoughts on if this can be done?

Best regards from Norway

Yes it can be done. Did it myself a few years ago and lots of other gtfour owners has fitted then.

Isnt the st202 superstrut suit the carina better? Since carina is a fwd not an awd