My 7afe TURBO project |
My 7afe TURBO project |
Jan 24, 2014 - 3:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
[color="#FF0000"][/color]Hi Guys ..
Iam new member in this forum and i benefited a lot after i read the topics.. in this week i will start my project in my Corolla Engine 7A-FE .. I know alot of members will suggest for me to change the engine but in our country difficult to found 3gs or others. My goal exactly to make my car for carshow and dailyuse. I will use RB20DET Turbo .. what do you think guys it will be ok? And i want to ask what i will need to boost my 7a with stock internal block NOTICE: My Transmission Automatic..!! |
Jan 24, 2014 - 5:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 2, '07 From Berlin, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 18 (100%) |
search "OOBE" in the search bar in the top corner.
he is one of the first 7A automatic turbos on here. go for it my friend. -------------------- *1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS *1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser *2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost 2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun. |
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You will NEED an auxiliary transmission cooler to allow it to handle the extra power, if you can find someone who can rebuild the transmission and modify the valve body for better faster firmer shifting that would be very good as well.
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Jan 25, 2014 - 11:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Jan 25, 2014 - 11:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks guys ..
i send message to OOBE Guys what about the oil i need two ways in and out to the turbo .. from where can i take? This post has been edited by RoadRunner: Jan 25, 2014 - 12:18 PM |
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You will NEED an auxiliary transmission cooler to allow it to handle the extra power, if you can find someone who can rebuild the transmission and modify the valve body for better faster firmer shifting that would be very good as well. Thanks Dear .. i will use good cooler to the transmission i need maximum 6 to 7 PSI |
Jan 25, 2014 - 8:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
You will NEED an auxiliary transmission cooler to allow it to handle the extra power, if you can find someone who can rebuild the transmission and modify the valve body for better faster firmer shifting that would be very good as well. no he wont, not with low boost. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I disagree, but that's OK.
He already lives in Bahrain, which gets rather warm in the summer and stays pretty nice in the winter. http://weatherspark.com/averages/32754/Man...Muharaq-Bahrain 100F average summer temps PLUS a turbo ontop of an automatic transmission dumping heat into the cooling system. He'll likely want to add more cooling capacity, especially if he's running a front mount intercooler which would be dumping warmer air through the radiator. If he gets an aftermarket radiator then he HAS to run an auxiliary cooler since there won't be a trans cooler built into the radiator. Regardless of that, the stock trans cooler is mighty wimpy. Calling a cooler is a misnomer, it's a heat exchanger. It warms the fluid faster when it's cold and keeps it from getting entirely too hot later, however since heat is the biggest killer of the automatic even the 210-220 F coolant temp is a little on the high side for an auto trans. Add atop that 30-50FT/Lb's more torque to a trans that's old already and you're going to add stress and heat that maybe it can handle maybe it can't, it will work it's best at about 180F fluid temps. I suspect in the heat there with the added power he'd be seeing fluid temps north of 230 and that's where things start to degrade. And about the valve body work, at stock power levels the A245/A246E have a slow/weak shift from 2-3 right off the bat that gets a little worse as they age. Slow shifts are slow because things are allowed to slip as they apply, slipping is friction, friction makes heat. Adding power to a slow shift will just make it slip more because of a weak apply. Correct the 2-3 shift softness and it'll help a lot. Other than that and the general compromises that Aisin makes between shift speed/firmness and comfort (which are inherent to any trans for the most part) the A24x series are solid units. This post has been edited by Bitter: Jan 25, 2014 - 10:07 PM -------------------- |
Jan 26, 2014 - 12:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You will NEED an auxiliary transmission cooler to allow it to handle the extra power, if you can find someone who can rebuild the transmission and modify the valve body for better faster firmer shifting that would be very good as well. no he wont, not with low boost. Dear i want it for low boost .. Maximum 6 PSI for carshow and dailyuse.. Thanks for reply |
Jan 26, 2014 - 12:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I disagree, but that's OK. He already lives in Bahrain, which gets rather warm in the summer and stays pretty nice in the winter. http://weatherspark.com/averages/32754/Man...Muharaq-Bahrain 100F average summer temps PLUS a turbo ontop of an automatic transmission dumping heat into the cooling system. He'll likely want to add more cooling capacity, especially if he's running a front mount intercooler which would be dumping warmer air through the radiator. If he gets an aftermarket radiator then he HAS to run an auxiliary cooler since there won't be a trans cooler built into the radiator. Regardless of that, the stock trans cooler is mighty wimpy. Calling a cooler is a misnomer, it's a heat exchanger. It warms the fluid faster when it's cold and keeps it from getting entirely too hot later, however since heat is the biggest killer of the automatic even the 210-220 F coolant temp is a little on the high side for an auto trans. Add atop that 30-50FT/Lb's more torque to a trans that's old already and you're going to add stress and heat that maybe it can handle maybe it can't, it will work it's best at about 180F fluid temps. I suspect in the heat there with the added power he'd be seeing fluid temps north of 230 and that's where things start to degrade. And about the valve body work, at stock power levels the A245/A246E have a slow/weak shift from 2-3 right off the bat that gets a little worse as they age. Slow shifts are slow because things are allowed to slip as they apply, slipping is friction, friction makes heat. Adding power to a slow shift will just make it slip more because of a weak apply. Correct the 2-3 shift softness and it'll help a lot. Other than that and the general compromises that Aisin makes between shift speed/firmness and comfort (which are inherent to any trans for the most part) the A24x series are solid units. Our weather very hot specially in summer .. But i will use it with low boost .. maximum 6 psi .. what i will need guys? Injectors? fuel regulator? fuel pump? Blow of valve? whats else guys i will buy the parts this days i need suggestion Thanks for Replies |
Jan 26, 2014 - 3:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
Thanks guys .. i send message to OOBE Guys what about the oil i need two ways in and out to the turbo .. from where can i take? OOBE won't reply...he hasn't been active in over a year. read this: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8865 and this: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=52444 |
Jan 26, 2014 - 9:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Did I miss what you're tuning it with?
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Jan 26, 2014 - 11:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks guys .. i send message to OOBE Guys what about the oil i need two ways in and out to the turbo .. from where can i take? OOBE won't reply...he hasn't been active in over a year. read this: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8865 and this: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=52444 Thanks Playr These are very important topics.. |
Jan 26, 2014 - 11:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Jan 26, 2014 - 12:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
SAFC in my opinion is not sufficient, there is no timing control and very limited fuel control.
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Jan 27, 2014 - 12:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 24, '14 From Bahrain Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
SAFC in my opinion is not sufficient, there is no timing control and very limited fuel control. If i will use it without tuning..any problem will happen? for low boost i will use it on 6psi maximum Now i took RB20DET Turbo Intercooler Blow of vavle custom manifold i think i will need also injectors and fuel pump |
Jan 27, 2014 - 4:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
SAFC in my opinion is not sufficient, there is no timing control and very limited fuel control. if its an older engine, he could turn the distributor back. That will work just fine. RoadRunner, read some of the things I ran into http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...;hl=7a-fe+turbo -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Mar 3, 2014 - 8:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '14 From pompano Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good luck on the project 7afe turbo.. they are very fast arournd 15 psi and up.. the throttle response and turbo combo on these engines jump acceleration fast..
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