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So if anybody has been following the saga on Facebook, I bought a TRD Quickshifter from the UK for about $250 shipped. Gets here and looks nothing like TRD (top half looks exactly the same as stock).

Left: Short Shift. Right: OEM.


Upon looking at the welds underneath I came to the conclusion that this must have been a home conversion:





HOWEVER, the seller now says its a C's short shifter.... which is equally as desirable and expensive as the TRD (but perhaps even more rare). This is the pic he references from NewCelica:


http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210641

I can't find any pics of a genuine C's shifter for ST20X. I find it strange that they would use an OEM top half... but the bottom does look the same.

Has anybody seen a C's short shifter before, or knows where to find pics? Thanks!

send it back, get your money back, and just get an Ebay special. 40 bucks and they work great.

never seen a c-one before....

Thanks for the advice. I know many people are very happy with them, but I do not want to use a 7th gen shifter. At least for the ones I've seen, the cups at the ends are 12mm instead of 13mm for the 6GC. From the sounds of it LHD guys have much better luck with them than the people with RHD who I know to have tried it. Also, the 7th gen ones aren't as cheap here.



It isn't C-One... it is a company called C's. But they are rare.

After spending several hours scouring the internet and not being able to find any ST20X pics I emailed a past owner of the #77 Grp A ST205 from Australia who had one in his car and used to import the C's shifters (cost about the same as TRD but some people preferred these). 2 hours later and he found his old pics for me!!!















Now my current thoughts are that mine is genuine C's that has been home welded... but I'm not sure why. I am happy with the cost if it is genuine C's product (what can I say... I like rare things ), so does anybody have any thoughts after comparing the images?

find a stock shifter arm and compare its bottom shaft length with the one you have. then youll have solid first hand physical evidence rather than comparing through images

Perhaps somebody managed to break it and it's been fixed?

The first pic in this thread I took last night when I had my stock shifter out of the car comparing... the new one is considerably longer. Just trying to work out whether it is legit C's or home made now.

A bit of both

Those images look just like mine, and the supplied bolts are the same colour as those replaced on my plastic housing... so pretty confidant that it was a C's shifter. However, there was still no explanation for the dodgy weld.

I needed a couple of easy points to compare measurements... so I took physical measurements of the length of the lower section (from the joins to the upper and lower balls) and then from the shift boot notch to the top of the gear stick. I got measurements of 77 and 52mm respectively. I then opened up the image of a genuine item and used Paint to count pixels in the X and Y planes and used simple Pythagoras theory to get the length of the parts I measured. I could then compare the difference in length between the top and bottom section of the new C's shifter, vs my one. As it turns out, the distance below the pivot point on my one is notably shorter than the new one (whilst still being longer than stock).



The paint line that you can see above the top ball on my one is the paint line where the top of the ball was attached in the factory. A previous owner has obviously not liked how short the new shifts were, and has moved the pivot point lower, thus resulting in longer shifts (but still shorter than stock). He has then welded it in place himself, explaining the home weld job. This can be confirmed through visual cues underneath the shift ball... note on the new images tangcla provided the tapered lower section is the same size as the top section when it leaves the ball. On my images you can see that the shaft where it has been welded is already notably smaller, indicating that the taper has started higher up.

So we know finally know its story. Not sure what the seller will want to do now... because it obviously isn't worth as much as it would be unmodified.

I just picked up some washers from the hardware store so I'm going to have another go at installing it.

at least partially refund your money. or make a deal. that is not TRd, nor is worth that much.... he was selling a TRD, and misrepresented. ignorance or not..

Install it and see if you like it. If you dont, return it, if you do, request a partial refund.

Interesting. I never knew C's made anything for our cars. Good find.