 how to swap a 2grfe V6 into a st204, Toyota reliability, with less moving parts than a turbo |
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 Oct 23, 2014 - 9:32 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%)  |
My cars now and my last car were all drive by wire.
I have to say I miss direct throttle cable soooo much. The only good drive by wire car i've driven extensively is the E46 M3 otherwise. Are you keeping AC? |
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Oct 23, 2014 - 11:29 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
Yes. Everything will work. Crossing fingers
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Oct 23, 2014 - 12:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
DBW is bad on stock ECUs. On standalones however it's nearly the same as cable throttle. It responds just as fast, but the direct link feel is lost, because the pedal almost always has less resistance to it.
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Oct 23, 2014 - 2:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Syaoran @ Oct 23, 2014 - 12:43 PM)  DBW is bad on stock ECUs. On standalones however it's nearly the same as cable throttle. It responds just as fast, but the direct link feel is lost, because the pedal almost always has less resistance to it. True. But 275 hp in n/a. With spare parts stateside is appealing to me.. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Oct 23, 2014 - 7:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'll bet you can take the pedal apart and install a firmer spring
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Oct 23, 2014 - 11:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '10 From Greenville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 50 (100%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 23, 2014 - 10:14 AM) thanks. 2grfes dont use cable throttles. they are drive by wire and use a specific pedal..  You are a crazy man. Crazy genius. But still crazy! I honestly can't even imagine the work just to do the pedal! I'm going to have to come to TN so see this beast when it is finished! |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 7:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 23, 2014 - 7:02 PM) I'll bet you can take the pedal apart and install a firmer spring I will leave the pedal alone, i dont want it getting stuck. QUOTE (perkyshadow @ Oct 23, 2014 - 11:42 PM) You are a crazy man. Crazy genius. But still crazy! I honestly can't even imagine the work just to do the pedal! I'm going to have to come to TN so see this beast when it is finished! the bracket itself took 7 hours, give or take 2. because i had no idea of the positioning of the pedal, so it was trial and error. now that i have a basic idea, should be quicker. This swap is slow, because im collecting parts as i go. If i break one barrier, i move on to the next. remember, i had no idea the engine would fit in the bay, it would have been a 2700$ loss for me... ( there are cheaper, but not with less than 25K miles and complete with all accessories). this is the bracket on the car... DSCN1377  of course had to make sure that DSCN1376  i used long bolts, and thread locker... Do not want to get loose on me.. Same went for the pedal... DSCN1378  and next task, will be to find out if these go in with no problem... DSCN1379  hate to take a loss on them..... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 12:07 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 7:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '10 From Greenville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 50 (100%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 24, 2014 - 8:22 AM) QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 23, 2014 - 7:02 PM) I'll bet you can take the pedal apart and install a firmer spring I will leave the pedal alone, i dont want it getting stuck. QUOTE (perkyshadow @ Oct 23, 2014 - 11:42 PM) You are a crazy man. Crazy genius. But still crazy! I honestly can't even imagine the work just to do the pedal! I'm going to have to come to TN so see this beast when it is finished! the bracket itself took 7 hours, give or take 2. because i had no idea of the positioning of the pedal, so it was trial and error. now that i have a basic idea, should be quicker. This swap is slow, because im collecting parts as i go. If i break one barrier, i move on to the next. remember, i had no idea the engine would fit in the bay, it would have been a 2700$ loss for me... ( there are cheaper, but not with less than 25K miles and complete with all accessories). this is the bracket on the car...  of course had to make sure that  i used long bolts, and thread locker... Do not want to get loose on me.. Same went for the pedal...  and next task, will be to find out if these go in with no problem...  hate to take a loss on them..... Man, I hope they fit! It looks crazy tight already! |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 9:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Good vibes, hope they fit
-------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
1994 Celica GT Liftback |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 11:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Make them fit!
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Oct 24, 2014 - 11:58 AM
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Are those the Gouky headers?
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Oct 24, 2014 - 7:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
teaser for tonight, guokys header.....
DSCN1385  im to lazy to post... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 12:18 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 8:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The real question, how does the rear fit?
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Oct 24, 2014 - 8:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Won't you throw automatic transmission DTC's with the PCM for the 2GR, or did your 2GR come from a manual car?
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Oct 24, 2014 - 9:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
yes he will, the only car with a 2GR thats a manual is the Lotus Evora. Most of the AT codes can be defeated except one. The MR2 guys have been fighting it for years.
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 24, 2014 - 9:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
And that puts the engine in limp too, doesn't it?
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Oct 25, 2014 - 6:05 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
to answer the questions...
1. I know how the rears fit... wont say for now.. 2. Yes i will throw a code.. 3. it wont put the engine on limp, otherwise i would not have done swap.. (mr2 guys have all of it covered.) -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Oct 25, 2014 - 3:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I remember a fellow with a MZ in their MR2 that was doing funky things with an auto PCM, pulling timing at certain RPM's and I think it was related to the codes thrown.
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Oct 25, 2014 - 3:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
At some point wouldn't it just be easier to use a standalone than to bother with the factory ECU?
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 26, 2014 - 8:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Oct 25, 2014 - 3:36 PM) At some point wouldn't it just be easier to use a standalone than to bother with the factory ECU? 2 points. 1. yes if you live in an area that does not do obd2 checks. 2. It has not been fully developed yet. So i would rather be safe for now, than sorry, than to blow an engine. I cant tune, and wont be paying hundreds to get it tuned, nor do i have a dyno near. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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