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After talking to two different people that specialize in older transmission rebuilds they said he put the filter on wrong. I REALLY hope they're right, and after doing lots of research it's the only logical explanation. Car was perfectly fine before fluid and filter, then immediately went to Hell in a handbasket. They were saying fluid issues don't usually show up until later down the road, and from what I could find and what they said the Type F is a little more viscous and it's not as slippery but not so much so a trans would move with the Type F with no issues but be completely useless with Dexron. The only reason I did the fluid and filter was p/o said it had been refreshed, and I was wanting to use Dexron since that's what is called for. Will double check the filter here in the next few hours or tomorrow, and hopefully it's on backwards.

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I have made the joke before I should spray the interior down with light beer to complete the atmosphere. I just don't know about using an old wiper bottle and pump, it just isn't sanitary. Never mind the fact drinking and driving is just never a good idea.

Anyhow it'll be tomorrow getting to the transmission filter.

Well, the filter and gasket were on correctly so I guess it just decided to up and die. I hate cars.

I think I'll just give up on cars for awhile, I'm fed up with them. This is exactly why I LOATHE car shopping, because this kind of ****ing **** always ****ing happens. The only vehicle that I've bought that wasn't a complete basket case was the Celica and that was only because I bought it from my uncle after he'd gone through everything. The Miata I wasn't able to drive long enough for **** to go wrong, but I'm sure something terrible was bound to happen soon enough. I have the absolute worst luck with cars, it'd be different if I beat the living Hell out of them and neglected maintenance. No, I drive like an old man and address issues immediately and this is how I'm rewarded. **** you Murphy, **** you **** you **** you to god damn mother****ing hell.

Calm down mang, we all go through car trouble. Hell when I first got the porsche it almost killed my dad due to a fuel line breaking and spilling over the engine. It's just part of game man. It sucks but you just have to accept it.

Anyway today I preordered my copy of fallout 4. I seriously can't wait till November.

I'm really just tired of the two-faced ****ers selling the cars. Anyway, talked to one of the trans rebuilders again and he said to shove tractor fluid into it and if that doesn't get it grabbing again nothing will. Of course even if it does "fix it" it's only a bandaid, so I need to decide if I want to bother with a manual conversion or just sell it at a loss since I'm not going to be a ****head and lie about the trans being trash.

I also heard about Fallout 4, I have 3 but could never get into the whole post apocalyptic nuclear wasteland thing. Too depressing.

This post has been edited by Box: Jun 15, 2015 - 9:05 PM

It's possible he wasn't lying about it and maybe the transmission was fine when he had it.

I vote for the manual trans swap. I mean you walk with both legs why drive with one.... just saying

It may not have been him as he was right about the engine being rebuilt, just not what it was out of. He said everything was from a '69 Chevelle and that the engine was rebuilt and the transmission was refreshed. Well, the engine was rebuilt(I had to replace leaking valve cover gaskets and the inside is spotless and I could see new lifters, rods, rockers, and springs for sure, and you can hear the cam) but it's from a '76 C-10. Not that it really matters I guess as they're both gen I 350 blocks with four bolt mains, but still. The transmission "refresh" apparently consisted of new fluid and filter, but throwing on a beat up pan full of gunk and reusing an old gasket. I want to recall he said something about who he got it from said to use Type F, something to the effect of being an old racer's trick and them working better or whatever. I never drove the car hard as the engine was still being broke in, but if I had it'd probably had started showing signs. Just peculiar that immediately after changing the fluid it's trashed. Either he was lied to and put in the trans as is full of Type-F with stop slip and didn't know, or he was lied to and realized it was crap and filled it with Type-F and stop slip in order to sell the car. I'd like to think it was the first, but either way I'm the one that's going to have to eat it.

It was my full intentions to do a manual swap after I was able to get everything bought and ready to go in order to minimize downtime, that and I actually had somewhere to do it. Problem here being that was going to be a year or more down the road, so I needed the trans to last until then even though I had full plans of replacing it anyway. The only reason I did the fluid and filter on it was since it was up in the air anyway having the engine oil and filter changed since I had finished breaking the motor in, plus I figured hey since the trans was refreshed I should probably change it too so it'll be good until I convert it. Nope, just ripped off the bandaid that was holding it together. That's ok it would've shown up soon enough since the engine was finally broken in I was going to start getting on it a little just to see what it'd do. Hopefully the tractor fluid gets it grabbing again, but I need to figure out what I want to do. Being everything I want to do with it is stock in a fourth gen I had been thinking about selling/trading it for one of them. I do know I'm NEVER buying another automatic again, this is exactly why I hate them not to mention they suck to drive anyway.

This post has been edited by Box: Jun 15, 2015 - 11:04 PM

rwd+auto=burnout machine.

Pretty much... Grabbed two gallons of tractor fluid and will try it tomorrow, well technically today. I guess I'll probably just end up selling it even if the tractor fluid gets it moving again. Even if I had a place to do the swap right now the T56 and T-10 aren't cheap, and the T5 being the only affordable transmission won't hold up to the torque according to everyone. For what it'd cost to rebuild the TH350 properly I'm well into the cost of doing a conversion, and I still would have to find somewhere to do all the work anyway. Oh well.

Put the tractor fluid in it and it really didn't make a difference... Out of frustration I revved it up in drive and maybe around 1,500 or so it started to grab and move. Reverse still takes off as soon as you get on the gas though. I read where maybe it could be air in the torque converter so lifted the rear off the ground about a foot or two and ran it through the gears. I noticed I could go from 1 to 2 to D and it'd shift, so the gears themselves seem ok and the valve-body should be fine. The only thing I can figure is perhaps it's a pressure issue, or the forward clutch. Though revving it up should make it slip more, and not grab if it were any of the clutches. I would say take it down the road and see what happens once it hits second, but I really don't feel like getting stranded and adding a tow bill to my list of problems.

pressure issue with at least first gear, likely a bad seal somewhere along the circuit or a cracked hard part, but since it was only after fluid change it's likely a fluid incompatibilty issue with the seals in the trans but it's weird reverse works fine though reverse gets some of the highest line pressure since it's a small clutch pack that's not used a lot under high torque usually. I'd suggest adding some seal sweller to the trans since you're probably not keeping it in the car.

That's what is weird about it, I looked it up and for reverse the pressure doubles so I wouldn't think it'd be anything pressure related or the torque converter. That and all gears engage properly and the car will creep along in drive so you'd think the forward clutch is ok enough. And the fact that revving some it grabs and goes, which if the forward clutch was at fault I'd think it'd slip more as the engine rpm's climbed. Which before giving up for the day and just being to the point of not caring anymore my brother noticed only the driver rear spins while in reverse, but while in drive only the passenger rear spins... Blown diff maybe? Though I'd think if it were the differential it'd cause issues regardless of moving forwards or backwards. Up in the air without any stress on the drivetrain it takes right off in drive, so it's something to do with once stress is placed onto everything.

Silly thought for the day though. On the way home in the Durango I couldn't help but notice it flashes from idle at 650 to 1,100 to get moving in drive. Though in reverse it takes right off. I'm going to smash my face through a wall if this is something entirely normal I've wasted a lot of fluid and time over.

Though it seems my brother's '80 Trans Am with the original 301 and TH200 doesn't slip any in drive. So who knows. All I know is that automatics depend on black magic and witchcraft and I hate them. I know what's going on with a manual at all times, they work on logic and basic understanding.

Thought about it and if the diff is open or a blown posi that's how it should operate. Came across part of Ron Sessions' TH350 rebuild book and according to it the forward roller clutch is to blame. Oh well, figures as much.

Guess I'll just end up selling it for a loss, that or let my brother buy it in that instance for the interior, motor, and body panels if he wants. I really just don't ****ing care anymore.

Box. Sell it. Youll get good money as scrap metal. Get a real car like a celica. And be done with it..

Box needs a first gen Celica liftback. It's perfect! Japanese reliability, 4 cylinder efficiency, classic muscle car looks, liftback practicality. It's perfect!