Finally brought my Supra home!, '97 TT 6 speed |
Finally brought my Supra home!, '97 TT 6 speed |
May 27, 2015 - 12:30 AM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
aaannnnddd.....i just bought my ticket..... Where are you flying into? Need a ride? I'll see if I can meet you at the airport. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
May 27, 2015 - 8:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
aaannnnddd.....i just bought my ticket..... Where are you flying into? Need a ride? I'll see if I can meet you at the airport. St. Louis. I have a rental car set up at the moment. -------------------- -Alex {](O_o)[}
1993.5 Toyota Supra ....with stuff.... ....sorta broken.... 1998 Toyota Celica ....this one, too, has stuff.... ....broken....yeah...definitely broken.... |
Sep 10, 2015 - 10:43 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Bit of an update. I don't guess I can really call the car stock anymore. I've had an intake and downpipe on for a little while but over the last few weeks I've gotten a bit more done. Started with a boost gauge and manual boost controller. For whatever reason, Toyota felt that it was best that these cars did not come with a factory boost gauge. Instead, they offer you a clock in a perfect circle that just so happens to be 52 mm.... Or the same size as most boost gauges. Potato quality pictures but you get the idea.
I'm still playing with the mbc and trying to get it set at 14.5 lbs. I hit boost cut at 14.7 so I want to give myself a little room to play with. It seems like no matter how many times I try, I'm either at wastegate pressure of 11.7 psi or else I hit boost cut in third gear. Still gotta play with that some more and find the sweet spot. Regardless, the increase of a couple psi was highly addictive, so Mr. Ngo got me hooked up with an HKS Super Drager exhaust. It's comically gigantic but damn it sounds good! And it's not loud at all, which is a major plus for me since I can't stand loud exhaust. That was too much chrome for me and attracted way too much attention so I painted the body of the muffler black to somewhat hide it underneath the car. Had to leave the gigantic tip chrome because it sticks so far out. Getting the turbo back exhaust finished up really woke the car up. I used to tell people it wasn't a 0-60 car and that fourth gear is where the fun began. I definitely can't stay that anymore. This thing is starting to haul ass! I finally took the time last weekend to tackle another project that has been bothering me. The brake calipers look like complete crap and give the car's age away. Nothing some Duplicolor caliper paint can't fix. Still have to get rid of the horribly destroyed chrome wheels but that's a project for next year. When Alex shipped the exhaust up here, he also hooked me up with a Greddy boost cut defender. That will let me turn the boost up past 1 bar (14.7 psi) without hitting boost cut. I haven't gotten it hooked up yet since I am still having some difficulty getting my mbc set just right. No need to destroy my cute little baby turbos because of a minor oversight with a manual boost controller. Get that hooked up, turn the boost up to 18 psi, and get new spark plugs and I should be around 400-450 whp. Which will be fun, but time to park it. I'm already making it way too thirsty. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
Sep 10, 2015 - 10:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Looks good man!
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Sep 10, 2015 - 10:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There's a place down south that'll take your stock turbo's as core and ship out some upgraded turbos that'll bolt right back in that are good to support around 600whp with the same or a little less lag than stock in sequential.
https://www.speedforsale.com/supraparts/spe...rwhp-p-553.html That's them. For when the stockers take a ****. -------------------- |
Sep 10, 2015 - 11:23 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
I'm torn between the upgraded twins and a PTE 6266 for when the twins die. The single turbo opens up so much room in the engine bay, but at the same time I love the sequential setup and virtually no lag whatsoever.
-------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
Sep 11, 2015 - 1:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '12 From Brisbane, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Haha, 52mm clock insert.... love it when companies plan ahead for you -------------------- SOLD :( 1997 ST204 Celica ZR -----> See it here on 6GC! 2013 October Celica of the Month XD Now: '00 NB8B Mazda MX5 -----> See it here in off topic! |
Sep 11, 2015 - 1:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '09 From Sacramento, California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm torn between the upgraded twins and a PTE 6266 for when the twins die. The single turbo opens up so much room in the engine bay, but at the same time I love the sequential setup and virtually no lag whatsoever. I think you should deal with those beautiful but super curb rashed wheels first. -------------------- Brand new 6gc owner! (sort of 2011)
The world is moving around a sun, the sun moves around a local arm of the galaxy, the local arm of the galaxy moves around a gigantic black hole. |
Sep 11, 2015 - 5:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I say stay with the sequential setup if you're keeping it to the streets and autocross. Really the only time I can see going to a single turbo being a benefit is for big power you'd only use at the drag strip.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Sep 11, 2015 - 7:59 AM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
I think you should deal with those beautiful but super curb rashed wheels first. Beautiful? They weren't a fantastic design when they were new and that was BEFORE the previous owners got them. I'm getting new wheels when these tires are gone but there's no need to let a brand new set of tires go to waste. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NLU3QoUTKDA One of the many reasons I'd love to keep sequential twins. That's way more power than I'll ever need and no lag. Just have to compare the cost of both setups. The 6266 isn't exactly laggy and supports more power than I can use. Hopefully I'm a few years away from needing to upgrade. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
Sep 11, 2015 - 10:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
i wish we had a section for other cars, instead of off topic, its sad to see some topics go dead in the mist off all the off topicness lately.
I like the updates on the non "project" supra, lol... need to clean the undercarriage. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Sep 11, 2015 - 10:19 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
The stock twins have a weird habit of dipping around 4K RPMs when in sequential mode as it transitions from Turbo 1 to Turbo 2. You can actually see it in the dyno graph of the stock Quicksilver on SF. A friend of mine was able to pretty much eliminate that dip using a MAP ECU. The disco potatoes are a really nice option though, but I do hate all the intake piping for them. However, once you go piggy back, you can eliminate the MAF sensor to do a custom twin intake set-up and it kind of makes some of the piping seem less redundant.
You can always set the twins to be sequential or TTC with the flick of a switch. I believe there's a write-up on it on SupraForums. Your fob squat skills need more work doe..... let me know how that Duplicolor stuff holds up. The VHT I used on my calipers sucked balls and started coming off. I'm really close to pulling them and sending them off for powder coating. Worry about the wheels later. Car needs moar low...and a name..... Did the boost gauge just slide into the clock position or did you need to do some trimming? I might settle for a ProSport gauge if I can't find a good deal on a Defi set-up. I'll let you know if I find anymore good deals on parts and pass'em along your way if I don't need'em. Everything's looking good so far! I just ordered my TRD sway bars btw! Can't wait for'em! -------------------- -Alex {](O_o)[}
1993.5 Toyota Supra ....with stuff.... ....sorta broken.... 1998 Toyota Celica ....this one, too, has stuff.... ....broken....yeah...definitely broken.... |
Sep 11, 2015 - 8:57 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
No need for the MAF with a piggyback? I figured it would take a standalone to delete the MAF. I may have to look into that. The boost gauge slid right in. Pretty perfect fit too. I used this same Duplicolor caliper paint on my IS300 5 years ago and they still look pretty good when I see it around. The rear calipers look great but the fronts are just now starting to chip. I used VHT on the Celica and it started flaking away almost immediately.
Also, you need to ship those TRD goodies to me. You have my address. Ren told me she'd prefer that I get TRD goodies. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
Sep 11, 2015 - 11:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
This is my friend's IJM. MAP ECU 3, custom twin intake, MAF delete, TTC at the flick of a switch. I wasn't a fan that most of the duplicolor paints i saw left it looking rough. I liked how the VHT gave the calipers a smoother, but ****tier, finish. I've no idea what TRD stuff you're talking about.....I think you're just imagining things... -------------------- -Alex {](O_o)[}
1993.5 Toyota Supra ....with stuff.... ....sorta broken.... 1998 Toyota Celica ....this one, too, has stuff.... ....broken....yeah...definitely broken.... |
Sep 14, 2015 - 5:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
The Map ECUs main function is to delete the MAF and convert the system to use a MAP sensor only(hence the name lol) however it does not have many failsafes. I have so many of the parts in this thread sitting on my shelf waiting to be installed(Superdragger, map ecu, 2jz, etc etc) so you being a guinea pig is great . We just recently picked up a friends car that has the upgraded twins and just had a PROEFI installed and man is it freakin sweet. The tuner upped the duty cycle on the first turbo to 11psi and almost eliminated the transition lag completely and it feels very similar to my 335i that has two of the same size turbos. The car made 400whp at 12psi(yes, 12psi) and 450whp at 14psi and it ran out of injector since we don't have time to put in the fuel system before Supras In Vegas. Next step is built auto, TRD dif and corn. If you do decide on the upgraded twins deal directly with Stu as he has a very close connection with the shop that physically bores and installs the wheels and he is an overall great guy to deal with. His car has over the 800whp mark with those turbos and now has swapped everything into his new QS car with a built engine, it will be interesting to see what it makes now.
As far as calipers go sanding and clearcoating goes a long way to help them not chip and look OEM. This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 14, 2015 - 6:01 PM |
Sep 14, 2015 - 6:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've spoke with Jason I think was his name a few times about a customer car thats supposed to get those turbos (as the stock are not rebuildable by garret) and he is a great guy to speak with, very knowledgeable and answered all my stupid questions perfectly.
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Apr 15, 2016 - 9:31 AM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Online Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Not much noteworthy progress, but I'm posting it here to keep a logos everything. Over the last few weeks I've gotten my leaky valve cover gaskets replaced. While that was apart, I put a manual boost controller on my exhaust bypass valve so I can control my first turbo. The boost controller I already have in place controls both turbos so I can run 18 lbs of boost, but that puts a strain on the second turbo as the system goes from 11.7 lbs to 18 lbs when the second turbo comes online. Putting the boost controller on my exhaust bypass valve allows me to spoil the first turbo up to 15 lbs which of course names more power before 4K rpm, reduces shock on the second turbo, and still allows time for prespool of the second turbo. No pictures of that, but it's definitely fun. Gas mileage is suffering but I didn't buy a Prius.
Moving on from that, I bought a rebuild kit for all four of my calipers as well as stainless braided lines. I also received a package from Texas. HKS coilovers! Yusssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait.... Wait, that's definitely not right.... Ngofcukinway that's right..... Alex has struck again. He sent me some Eibach springs. No new struts yet so it'll be a while before they're on the car. I may test fit them for the lulz but my stock struts definitely can't take it for too long. Then he convinced me to spend more more money on rare parts. SPORTY DRIVING PARTS!!!!!!! The instructions were completely in Japanese and useless but I managed to figure out 6 nuts all by myself. I haven't had time to rebuild the brake calipers or install the new lines yet. I'm close to finishing the remodel on my house and the MR2 I have in the driveway takes priority right now, but the strut bar made a big difference. Feels more stable all around, and much less chassis flex with the top off (although it's still pretty bad.) Haven't tested it in a corner yet. It's one of the last brand new strut bars left in the US, so that's pretty neat. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
Apr 15, 2016 - 10:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 12, '13 From Cleveland Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Awesome update!! Just reread the whole thread
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Apr 15, 2016 - 10:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
I do what I can. Looking good. lol
We have a source for a titanium one coming in soon for some quality check. Hopefully should be good. -------------------- -Alex {](O_o)[}
1993.5 Toyota Supra ....with stuff.... ....sorta broken.... 1998 Toyota Celica ....this one, too, has stuff.... ....broken....yeah...definitely broken.... |
Apr 15, 2016 - 1:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^I'm surprised you got away with Brigette's Bitch on the postal address, that's great.
Yay sporty driving parts! I miss Engrish in my car owning experience. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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