Rookie mistake, trans axle (cv axle) help |
Rookie mistake, trans axle (cv axle) help |
Dec 9, 2015 - 9:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Ok today was pulling out my passenger front strut and rebuilding with catridge type front assemblies from RocketScott (thanks guy!)
I thought I had propped the wheel hub nicely for while I broke down the old assembly and assembled the new one, but I apparently nudged the wheel hub when I was maneuvering the new assembly around the break-line and when the wheel hub leaned outward (away from the motor) it pulled the inner cv/axle spline out of the transmission. (I've read it may have never been properly installed or I might have a bad c-clip?) Eitherway, I know it's a rookie mistake so I'm just looking for some opinions for Celica vets before I moved forward. Good way to reinstall? Things I should check on? - Edited for clarification This post has been edited by 94yotaGT: Dec 9, 2015 - 10:51 PM |
Dec 9, 2015 - 10:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So you separated the inner joint inside the boot?
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Dec 9, 2015 - 10:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Yea, not the side of the wheel hub but the opposite side where I suppose it fits into the transmission.
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Dec 9, 2015 - 10:55 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
The passenger side axle can slide freely in and out of the trans. It's secured by the carrier bearing. The driver side has the C clip that locks the axle in the trans. No worries, you have caused any damage to the car. It'll spill some gear oil but that's about it.
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Dec 10, 2015 - 12:08 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Got out and messed with it this morning (forgive the rookie speak)
It seems the axle has come out of the carrier bearing (where the three knobs insert into the bearing) It would seem I\'m going to have to disconnect the tie rod from the steering knuckle and pull the whole dang axle out. Any advice? This post has been edited by 94yotaGT: Dec 10, 2015 - 12:42 PM |
Dec 10, 2015 - 3:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
sounds like you pulled the CV apart
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Dec 10, 2015 - 4:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Been out there prepping some stuff, got the tie rod end off the steering knuckle, got the axle nut off (and the hub assembly is loose on the axle spline and can be pulled off easy), just gotta pull the three nuts on the steering knuckle and pull the assy off.
I'm just curious on how easy it will be to put the axle back into the inboard joint if I pull the boot off and reinsert with the axle not in the wheel hub assembly. Any advice on this will be great, gonna be slow and take my time. I checked at autozone and they have a replacement axle for 70$ so should I do new axle or try to put the one I have back together? |
Dec 10, 2015 - 11:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You're going to want to try to carefully turn the shaft back and forth while pushing it back into the cup, done right you may be OK assuming nothing fell out inside the boot.
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Dec 11, 2015 - 5:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So I undid the two 14 mm bolts on the bracket between the carrier bearing and the tranny, at which point the axle slide right out of the tranny. Now call me a rookie but I was unaware of that the manual trannys had fluid that is a lot like engine oil. (This girl is my first manual ever) can someone link me to a nice write up for refilling the tranny and the proper type of tranny fluid for this ol girl (94 celica gt 2.2)?
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Dec 12, 2015 - 2:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
yeah you should have drained it first. filling is very easy, there is a 24mm hex hes bolt on the front of the trans. with the car level on the ground, fill oil until it starts coming out the hole. thats it..
as for type, im a cheap bastard so i use autozone 80/90 gear oil. if you want to spend money get MT90 or royal purple. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Dec 12, 2015 - 6:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Got the boot off the inner joint and pulled the pieces apart, haven't cleaned yet. (got dark on me outside)
I tried to loosely put them back together and they wouldn't go, the triple bearings start in but don't go much more than a couple cm into the cup. In the morning I'm going to clean off all the old grease and check for damage in the cup and on the triple bearings. Does anyone know if this triple bearing needs to be tapped into the cup with a rubber mallet or should it just slide in easily? (Note I'm positive this inner joint didn't get yanked or slammed or handled aggressively so I doubt either part is damaged, just looking for a bit of feedback.) p.s. @ Smaay, got 2 quarts (75w 90) figured I only lost about a quart and a half, it was only 20$ thanks for the reply This post has been edited by 94yotaGT: Dec 12, 2015 - 6:41 PM |
Dec 12, 2015 - 11:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The tripod is mated to the cup by wear so it should go back exactly the same spot it came out from and it should slide in easily, the bearings may be slid off the tripod a little and need to be pushed back into place.
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Dec 13, 2015 - 11:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '15 From Decatur, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Again a big thanks to everyone who contributed. It was my first time encountering such an issue, I got the axle back together today.
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