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Another sad part is EX's put more to the wheels than GT's and dont dare to say otherwise or you dont know what your talkin about. Iv read so many articles from Super Street to Import Mag on hondas(mostly buy them for the killer Supras and WRX's on the cover) Hondas have killer trannies, plus they are just as reliable as Toyotas. 6gc's are cool cars but by no means fast.

This post has been edited by 5sfeTurbo: Mar 23, 2004 - 1:38 AM

What do you consider fast?

not the 5sfe.

I think you are very mistaken regarding this. Toyota has various smaller vehicles to compete with the Hondas especially the integra. The Levin, Trueno, Cynos and a couple of others are in the 1.6 category of the integra and the also have similar shape, size and weight.

The Celica was created to compete with larger category like the Prelude and other 2,0 litre cars, well not actually because the Celicas history goes decades earlier than these cars. Then the Supras come along to compete in the 2.5 to 3.0 litre category where honda is not really in but there are other cars like the 300zx etc.

After the ridiculous low power of the 6gen in the US the 7 gen was created to be smaller in size and cheaper to directly compete and gain back the market share from the integras. This time they were carefull to produce a car that would have the power and pass smog tests and not go with a low power engine in the US market merely for smog purposes.

They have learned their lesson and that was looks aren't everything. You need to have a well rounded product to succeed

i wasn't just guessing though
it was either Epinions or autotrader where i got that from
and yes, prlude was in the market too.
but for the civic, if i remember right...the corolla was to compete against that.
it was mostly a price/quality thing...

Epinions and autotrader dont offer conclusive and reseached evidance. they are just opinions.

91 supra'

0 - 60 : 7.1
1/4 mile : 15.6

thats quite a bit faster then the celica i believe

Thats a modified or a turbo supra. Stock NA Supras should only hit about 16 seconds.

By the way, my friend had an 89 or 90 Supra and the engine messed up real bad only after about 3000 miles of owning it. It probably had around 130,000 miles. It seemed as though something was wrong with it considering my GT with just an intake tied him in a race...

ya thats the stock 91 turbo mkiii

streight line speed shouldnt be enough to sell you on the car... make sure you drive both.

ouch boosted...
shot down everything i ever knew
i meant the reports on the cars, not the reviews...like when u go to buy it and there's an editor that writes on it...but yea, it's His Opinions

lol yupp, opinions are like @$$ holes, everyones got one. i remember watching C&D TV last month and they had Jay Leno test driving a WRX STi and an RX-8. he had nothing good to say about either car. lol, well no **** thats what you expect from an american muscle/classic car purist

alot of times toyota itself will issue a statement saying as to what class they design the car for and what cars it was most ment to compete against.

I'm saying otherwise, the only time I've lost to an EX is when it was turbo'd.

95 toyota celica GT liftback, according to car and driver, does 0-60 in 8 flat, and the quarter mile in 16.5

yes, i have to say that supra is significantly faster than a 6th gen, but in terms of any other sporty car thats semi modern...

All of these numbers have also come from Car and Driver

95 acura integra GS-R 0-60 in 7 flat, and the quarter mile in 15.6
95 DSM AWD 0-60 in 6.6, quarter mile in 15.3
95 prelude VETEC 0-60 in 6.5, quarter mile in 15.1

*95 acura integra LS 0-60 in 7.5, quarter mile in 15.9* - even the basic integras are nipping the heels of the mk3

and to make matters even worse, any new family midsize with a 6 cylinder AND an auto would give the supra a run for its money. Think accord V6, Camry SE V6, Nissan Altima 3.5 SE ( 5.9 and 14.6 with a stick- fast stuff for a family car)

The moral of this story- The Mk3 Supra is old technology.

Just becuase a car puts more hp to the wheels doesn't mean its faster...5sfeTurbo
was just saying that as a tranny comparing observation.

This post has been edited by Doge: Mar 24, 2004 - 10:56 AM

0-60 mph-------5.9-----ST205----GT-Four
i rest my case. Thats stock too
1973 Honda Civic 19.3
1994 Honda Civic del Sol VTEC 7.4 15.8
1999 Honda Civic Si 7.2 15.7
1989 Toyota Celica All-Trac 7.5 15.6
1997 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.1 13.6
1995 Eagle Talon TSi 6.4 15.1
1971 Ford Pinto 1600 18.0 21.1
1980 Ford Pinto (4spd) 15.8 20.8
1995 Mazda RX-7 R2 5.0 14.0
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.4 14.9

theres some stats, straight from the books(website actually),lol

the only problem GReddy, is that the GT-4 isnt sold in the states lol

on the other hand, USDM MR2 Turbo.... 0-60 in 6.1 the JDM 94-99 MR2 GTS is MUCH faster.

ok i see what u guys r sayin about how the mkiii is outdated/tank etc. i guess they arnt that quick. besides a 6th gen gt, do any of u know a car i could get used for kinda cheap (under 7k) that is somewhat quick? i was thinkin integra but they seem to hold their value really well

ya, integra is a good choice, and you can find em at a good price because how abundant they are. also 240SXs are good cars.