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Alrighty i'm doing the 5sfe turbo thing. I'm just looking at everything I have and trying to make sure i dont need anything else.

Have:
Rebuilt Twin-entry CT-26 Turbo
3SGTE Exh. Manifold
3SGTE Oil pan and oil lines
2 Bar Sensor- alltrac
Supra Ingectors
Venom 255lbp fuel pump

Getting, in transit:

Greddy BOV & flange
Greddy Turbo timer
NGK spark plugs

Still need to buy: (waiting on funds lol)
MSD 6BTM
Greddy Profec-1 Electroic Boost controller
Misc. piping
Boost, oil pressure guages

Do I need anything else. I think that i'm going to get new piston rings and head gasket. Anything else i should consider

um, getting a 3s-gte .... alot better safer, .............and more power..arh arh arh

dont want a 3sgte. I may swap to a 3sgte head but i want to do it on my own engine.

What about internals? How do the 5sfe crank,rods and pistons hold up? If your going to have it all apart might aswell? And look around the mr2 boards for a head, every once in a while someone is selling one for pretty cheap.

I wish people would stop saying this in response to: I want to turbo my 5sfe. I know a lot of people go: TURBO! without knowing about the 3sgte, but a lot of us don't- and this is annoying:

This post has been edited by shid: Apr 26, 2004 - 11:02 AM

ok ok, my bad, but really it makes alot more sence, most people that think about a turbo, is becasue..
A. its cheaper..... which its not, in the long run, it will most likly be more.
B. its easier, not really, when you tear apart your engine, and do it over and over.
C. your just slapping it on........ stock engines arent mad for turbos, yeah you can replace the internalsmakes more sence, but your going to spend alot more on doing that. and it still wont handle as much power.
D. Its also tfaster................your also doing just as much work, and down time....... most likly more down time for problems...

I'm not worried about getting 300hp. I just want mine faster I'll be running 5 psi during normally runs. I've already read up on stuff i was just trying to remember if i needed anything else and see if anyone had a good suggestion I havent read yet. & I dont want to hear about a 3sgte swap. Wont work on my car anyways, its an auto and i already have almost everything i need. I'm going to stick turbo on and save up more and buy me a 5sfe block and rebuild it and a 3sgte head and put the two together and run around 12psi which is plenty for me.

A: The only way I've seen it end up more expensive is if your engine blows- which if you do everything right and replace everything the first time- doesn't happen, and ends up being cheaper than 3s swap (unless you do the labor on the 3s swap yourself.
B: I don't think either one is easier- there are horror stories to both. I think it's definetly easier to get a shop to do an A+ job ona turbo install, than an A+ job on a 3s swap.
C. nothing to dispute here
D> Down time from problems is only the result of doing things stupidly, without reading about 5sfte's first. IE, not upgrading the fuel pump and blowing a piston- or running 15 psi without upgradng internals. A safe, lightly modded 5sfe engine can run on low boost just fine without huge problems.

E. Some of us don't want that much power.

well not trying to purswade you to do a 3s, why wouldnt it work with an auto, all you need is your tranny, or better yet an auto 3s-ge tranny, sheat I have a perfect auto 3s-ge tranny im selling ..

I have also been compiling the same list as you for the 5sfte. I have not yet started to gather parts yet though, but this list is from a years worth of research on the topic.

Yours is pretty complete, the things i have on mine that you do not have on yours is:

-gaskets for the exh manifold, oil pan, downpipe, ect..
-lines to run the coolant
-SAFC-2
-oil relocation kit (there might be a problem of the oil filter hitting against the turbo/exh manifold. this might not be a problem for you as you have a 94 and it might not have come with an oil cooler which causes the clearence problem)

If you do the HG,get some ARP head studs also. All 5sfe HG's are now metal at toyota and are about $50 if you know someone that works there. 3sgte rods fit the 5sfe crank if you have the rod jurnals ground down a bit.

You know very little... so just be quiet. You need a lot more than just a tranny to run a 3SGTE auto...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Apr 27, 2004 - 1:41 AM

Chucho and the rest of us have heard this 5000 times. Everyone here has. This isn't a "Should I turbo my 5s-fe" thread, it's a "What else do I need" thread. Shut up already!

Good luck chucho, how long do you think until you start and how many km/miles on the engine?

Oh.. and are you doing the labour yourself or are you getting a shop to do it? (DIY turbo = fun!!)

This post has been edited by KAMiX: Apr 27, 2004 - 3:41 AM

Well, i sugest Greddy E-manage over the S-afc. Incase you want to show off with the S-AFC But E-manage is all over the S-afc with functions aand ability. If you go with E-manage with all the wirings, you will be able to control your Injectors pulse, ignitions maps, real time data recording and etc. i made my decidion and got my self E-manage, and i wount regret it. ofcorse its a bit mess to tune it up, but i leave this for profesionals.

You said your getting the 2 bar sensor from the alltrac, how is this going to interface with your ECU?

Just wondering how you will control the fueling at different boost pressures.

Well, im still working on the MAP sensor, cuz there is no one who done it right on 7A engine. About fuel control, E-manage alows you like 20 points on different RPM, and +/- 50% fuel curve adjustment.