GT4 VS STI, who will win? |
GT4 VS STI, who will win? |
May 3, 2004 - 4:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I went shopping today for a WRX..not to bad there 2004 WRX Standard Package+Sun-roof goes for-22,000 (no way I can get the STi) with like 10,000 miles on it. Took a test drive, it was a very smooth ride and past 4K its pretty nice. Im just waiting to pay off the Celica then Im about 98% sure Im going to get one. Plus insurance likes the AWD+ 4 Door thing too.
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May 3, 2004 - 5:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
what did they update in the sti over the regular wrx? is the engine the same but running more boost? same tranny or a new design?
This post has been edited by lagos: May 3, 2004 - 5:51 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 3, 2004 - 6:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
hmm, im not 100% sure...I use to know, and either the WRX here was dif than in japan due to a different Liter engine to stay within emissions...then when the STi came we got all the performance PLUS the bigger engine...it was, confusing...i forget
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May 3, 2004 - 7:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
i believe the turbo/ic/suspension/etc are a little different on the STi. also, even with my bias, STi > GT-FOUR in performance definately. sorry. . but w/ looks, i'd say they are pretty much equal tho...
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May 3, 2004 - 9:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
they didn't make the WRX back then, it was the 2.5RS and they were as slow as my slushbox ST.
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May 3, 2004 - 9:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sorry bro but a 2.5RS will take an ST; and GT's shouldn't be a problem either I do love the old body style tho, do an EJ20 swap and you're all set |
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May 3, 2004 - 9:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
eh-heh, just like the GT4, they DID have WRX's
they never came to the US, and the 2.5 with the slits and scoop in the hood was the same style as the WRX in japan. -------------------- |
May 3, 2004 - 9:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats what I did! Oh man you'll love having a fast car around in case you wanna go fast and then the Celi for just reliability and to look good when u go on road trips cuz the Celi always look good to people. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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May 3, 2004 - 9:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i liked the 2.5's over today's wrx.
-------------------- All I have in this world is my Balls and my Word and I'm not breaking em for no one,- Tony Montana Team 6gc 2005 |
May 3, 2004 - 9:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
just found a dyno sheet for a stock STI....its only 228 at the wheels! man talk about drivetrain loss!
here is a link to the sheet and video -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 3, 2004 - 10:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
228hp sounds about right. Thats the thing you get with 4wd
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May 3, 2004 - 10:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
WRX's have been made since 1992. Along with evo's and skylines they are one of the most common performance cars around over here Which is part of the reason why i got a GT-Four in the first place-to have a bit of exclusivity |
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May 3, 2004 - 10:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
what does a stock gt-4 put down at a dyno? how about a stock evo8?
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May 3, 2004 - 10:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well my one put down 228hp at the wheels with exhaust, filter and more boost.
My guess a stock one would do about 195ish hp. The drivetrain loss is about 25% |
May 3, 2004 - 10:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i just found a dyno sheet for a stock evo....
EDIT: Sorry i posted the wrong dyno....the guy did a 3rd gear and a 4th gear run. here is the correct 4th gear dyno run. This post has been edited by lagos: May 3, 2004 - 10:40 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 3, 2004 - 10:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
arent most dyno runs done in 4th gear which is usually the gear that is closest to 1:1 ratio?
why is that evo's dyno done in 3rd? edit:the dyno was changed This post has been edited by 97sccelica: May 3, 2004 - 10:40 PM -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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May 3, 2004 - 11:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just got a quote on a 04" WRX ..*gulps*..check this out.....
....Directly from the letter, Dear Daniel Snider: Thank you for your Internet request. Based on the information that you have provided, if you were to replace your 1997 Toyota Celica GT/LE with a 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX, your new six month premium would be approximately $2,005.60. This is a total increase of $1,448.90. Please keep in mind that this is an estimate only, and the actual premium may differ based on the Vehicle Identification Number. Since this request was for a quote only, no changes have been made to your policy. I have Geico and I pay now $94 a month for Liability only, this would be $330 a month...damn Scratch that idea. This post has been edited by 5sfeTurbo: May 3, 2004 - 11:39 PM |
May 4, 2004 - 6:25 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '03 From UK Liverpool Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how i think of it is a subaru costs £20k new and a used gt4 costs £6k plus the £14k on mods and your going to have one killer.
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May 5, 2004 - 1:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 10, '04 From Shoreline, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
the sti frunt end is hella better looking, I really dont like the gt4 bumper. its just looks all rong, but thats just me.
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May 5, 2004 - 1:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yea its just you. Because not just about all celica owners but basically everybody else in this world find the GT4 to be one of the best designed cars. I have friends with Evos and STIs that are really impressed with it. |
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