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> 96, or 97 celica?, Any difference?
post May 24, 2004 - 11:29 AM
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This has been posted on other celica sites but they all say to come here..:
First off, I want to know what you all think of a '96-97 celica that would be fixed up. I also want to know the limits of horsepower, torque, etc..you can push on the stock engine, and is it difficult to modify or add a turbo onto the engine?
Last question, If i wanted to supercharge it, would i use a centerfugal or positive displacement supercharger?

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post May 24, 2004 - 11:33 AM
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the gt or st model?
post May 24, 2004 - 11:39 AM
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Err ST sorry..
post May 24, 2004 - 11:46 AM
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There is not much you can do to get more power out of the 7afe becasue of the economy head design and weak crankshaft. Currently there is no supercharger kits for the ST celica, but there are turbo kits for a corolla, which shares the same 7afe engine.
post May 24, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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So you suggest swapping engines?
post May 24, 2004 - 12:14 PM
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yes, 3sgte to be exact.


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post May 24, 2004 - 1:31 PM
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Which is more difficult on the ST than the GT - or so I'm told. Something about the mounts or something.


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post May 24, 2004 - 1:37 PM
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QUOTE (Negative @ May 24, 2004 - 11:31 AM)
Which is more difficult on the ST than the GT - or so I'm told. Something about the mounts or something.

Yes because the 7afe has little or no parts you'd need for the swap so a front clip is a must. The engine mounts are different. And thats all I know from reading around, but its been done a few times so I dont think its all that hard, just probably a lot more expensive.
post May 24, 2004 - 6:30 PM
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How about a 96, or 97 GT?
post May 24, 2004 - 7:15 PM
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QUOTE (ilAClI @ May 24, 2004 - 4:30 PM)
How about a 96, or 97 GT?

what are you talking about?? 94-99 Celica are the same except 96+ has new front fascia and a different ghey spoiler.


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post May 24, 2004 - 7:26 PM
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Another difference might the OBDI and OBDII. Forgot what years they switched over. 96+ might be OBDII.
post May 24, 2004 - 7:37 PM
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If its a GT the 3sgte will fall in pretty easy, or so ive read. The only hard part is suppose to be the wiring. You can even use the stock transmission if you dont plan on building up the engine any more than a bit above stock.

Also, if its a GT turbo is an option as the ct26 turbo and manifold from a 3sgte bolts right on. Additionaly, Ripp Mods offers a very good supercharger kit for the 5sfe. Its centrafugal i think.

take a look at the stickies on the top of the engine/trans performance section. They will answer more than i can.



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post May 24, 2004 - 7:52 PM
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do a custom turbo setup... Iam doing one now.. If you do the swap its alot of downtime and all the money is dished out at once.. Turbo you can save up, buy a part, save and buy... And it should only take about a weekend to install it if everything goes well.. Just a suggestion... Think about it
post May 24, 2004 - 8:43 PM
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QUOTE (LatinKraze @ May 25, 2004 - 12:26 AM)
Another difference might the OBDI and OBDII. Forgot what years they switched over. 96+ might be OBDII.

Correct. Any USDM car after 1996 is OBD2. Not a huge problem in and of itself, with a little research, you can work around the ECU up to a point. Having an OBD2 car may change your swap options in some places if you're considering one in the future. (IE; no 3SGTE swaps unless they came from a same-year or newer car pretty much means you're out of luck.)
post May 24, 2004 - 9:12 PM
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wow.. i read the whole engine swap sticky today.. So much of it takes place in California.

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