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post Feb 23, 2003 - 9:05 PM
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ok, here is something that bothers me and i wanted to know what other people thought about it. i have nitrous, and when i race people they tell me not to spray, or they wont race because i have it. i have no idea why in the hell people act like that. is nitrous not just like any other performance modification. you want your car to be fast, so if you have the money you can get nitrous oxide. thats like me racing a car with a header, and telling him i didnt want to race him cause he had a header. thats just ignorant if you ask me. it helps performance and i dont believe people should be like that. tell me what you think.
post Feb 23, 2003 - 9:25 PM
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I hear what your saying but I feel that NOS is kinda like a cheap trick. Its not legal in any racing series so in a way that kinda thinking is carried over to street racing. I don't think NOS is exactly shi+ but it would be one of the last mods I would do to my car. Also, it seems harder to gauge what kind of effect NOS will have on a car as opposed to try to roughly estimate someones all motor or F.I. capability. I could see if you were running against a car with turbo and you needed something to bring you up to that level but depending on what your up against its gains are to unknown for most people to be willing to go against...not many people have experience against it so there to unsure. Thats my take on this issue, what does everyone else think?
post Feb 23, 2003 - 10:28 PM
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IMO i think NOS should only be used on drag strips at a "real" race. Noone wants to get owned by NOS out on the street, plus that's a good way to get a bad rep for your car. I know celica's our slower than snot, but adding NOS is just making your car look worse cause that is the only aftermarket you can afford for your car, which means you shouldn't be racing in the first place.
post Feb 23, 2003 - 10:40 PM
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i think it's kind of a cheap mod for your car... i mean it's extremely hard to compete with so much boost, and if you're the other guy it's not even worth your time to race...

just my honest opinion...
post Feb 23, 2003 - 10:53 PM
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I think it's a mod to make your car go faster. I see it just like a turbo. Turbo's take time to spool up before boost. So, should people ask you to take off your turbo before they race, or go get a turbo themselves?
post Feb 23, 2003 - 11:04 PM
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Now if i had a turbo (t-66 or t-88) and i was racing someone that had a N/A w/NOS then i would be gung ho. But if i was N/A against a N/A w/NOS then i would tell the person to shove the hose up his azz and hit the button and see what his 1/4mi time is. Even a stock turbo @ 8psi isn't really that big of a competition for NOS since a 100shot of NOS can do like 200hp increase (i think, just guesstimating).
post Feb 23, 2003 - 11:18 PM
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LOL, that would blow an import to hell. Ok, here is am good way to look at nitrous. I saw a stock C-5 corvette dyno at um.... I'm thinking it was around 350ish. Now, with a 75 shot of TNT nos, he hit 500hp!!!
post Feb 23, 2003 - 11:32 PM
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so 100 shot is = 200hp roughly.
post Feb 23, 2003 - 11:40 PM
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DAY-UM!!!!!!!
post Feb 24, 2003 - 12:24 AM
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i can totally see y u would be pissed if u pulled up to race a car that was na w/nos. the guy/girl had nothing done to the car but nos that would be cheap. no if he did all the stuff most of u do and decided to go nos instead of engine swap or turbo i dont see nothing wrong wiht that just better hope u can out drive him or somthing
post Feb 24, 2003 - 12:44 AM
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I went against some huge supercrew truck this weekend with nitrous....not NOS grrrr....NOS doesn't mean nitrous but anyways....I won, because he was stuck at the stoplight...soemthing wasn't hooked up right and his ECU stalled his truck or something (I don't know for sure, I was laughing in my head msot of the time and wasn't paying any attention) lol...it was rather funny but I went back and helped him with whatever I coulkd....basically pushing the hting to the side of the road :-D

See....recing people with nitrous is that bad man! Sometimes you can win!

PLUS, I am zilch on the other two choices. Not enough funds as well as parents refusal keeps me from getting turbo or engine swap....just because they think it may be too much of an investment or somethoing i dunno....they say when im 18 i can do it ifg i want....but nitrous may be the way I want to go right now if I can prove to them how safe the Zex kit is now that they redesigned it.


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post Feb 24, 2003 - 2:22 AM
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People don't get NOS because they can't afford a turbo or swap, it's cause they want to be just like F&F.
And yes it is called NOS, it was before F&F and will be called the tomorrow.
post Feb 24, 2003 - 2:30 AM
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2 Fast 2 Furious, will not be featuring Nitrous Oxide Systems, but rather Nitrous Express, or so i've heard.. tongue.gif


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post Feb 24, 2003 - 2:41 AM
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QUOTE (Neipas09 @ Feb 24, 2003 - 12:22 AM)
People don't get NOS because they can't afford a turbo or swap, it's cause they want to be just like F&F.
And yes it is called NOS, it was before F&F and will be called the tomorrow.

Well, NOS is the name of the company and nitrous is what the gas is called, and FF2 does feature N.eX.

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Also, a modified car should just stick to its enigine mod Bracket, i.e., Forced Induction, Nitrous N/A, Nitrous Modified, N/A, and so on...

This post has been edited by hiflytsi: Feb 24, 2003 - 2:43 AM
post Feb 24, 2003 - 3:00 AM
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ok i have some input for this thread. nos is good in a sense. if you have a big turbo t-66 and bigger. then definitely get nos even a 35 shot will help your turbo spool up faster. and also will cool the air and fuel in the cylinders also resulting in more power. One thing though. nos is only good it you a have a big turbo. I personally don't like nos. turbos are way more effecient and in the end turbos will pay for themselves in comparison to NOS. So get yourself a medium sixed turbo. like a greddy TD06SH or something like that.



Also 100 shot of nos=100hp. approx.
post Feb 24, 2003 - 3:13 AM
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Ahh you beat me to it matt! It's cool.
IMO, NOS is just a waste. It's like wasting your money puffin on cigarettes as they diminish than you'd have to buy another one. But turbo is a different story, BOOST will always be there for ya. But than again, NOs is like replacing your performance $hits. OKay i'md one for.
post Feb 24, 2003 - 3:22 AM
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and also if you buy yourself a 3s just think of the possiblities. you can replace all of the internals of that engine for about 5 g's from JUN. I'm talking crankshafts, pistons, cams, valves, valve springs, piston rings, valve retainers, connecting rods, valve sleeves, etc. that will put you at about 325hp at stock boost. race some of those punks with NOS with no internal engine supports. waste them and collect some cash. or watch them blow there engine. sure they might have headers and an intake. and your engine looks stock. but they can't see inside it. they're engine only is good on the outside with some spray paint and bright colored wire looms.
post Feb 24, 2003 - 5:10 AM
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QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Feb 24, 2003 - 1:22 AM)
and also if you buy yourself a 3s just think of the possiblities. you can replace all of the internals of that engine for about 5 g's from JUN. I'm talking crankshafts, pistons, cams, valves, valve springs, piston rings, valve retainers, connecting rods, valve sleeves, etc. that will put you at about 325hp at stock boost. race some of those punks with NOS with no internal engine supports. waste them and collect some cash. or watch them blow there engine. sure they might have headers and an intake. and your engine looks stock. but they can't see inside it. they're engine only is good on the outside with some spray paint and bright colored wire looms.

perfectly said.

a lot of people say that NOS is best for "bang for the buck" but to me its like pissing in the wind...you keep paying for it and you can only use it in short spurts...

turbo = biggrin.gif
post Feb 24, 2003 - 6:08 AM
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Yes turbo does = biggrin.gif

Plus you don't have to refill your turbo after every run.
post Feb 24, 2003 - 9:22 PM
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what ever happened to run what you bring

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