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hey guys.....MIKE IS NOT GOD!

lets all join in and start doing research! so far i have learned more about copywrite law then i have about wiring on this thread. i am the only one to post any type of info about what needs to be done. its sad, because i am trying to figure this **** out for myself too. i still dont know 100% how each wire has to be converted and i would love to see you guys help me figure it out.

wiring for the ST SHOULD be the same as the GT, but i dont know for sure since i only have a GT.

More of us know about copywrite law than we know about the swap wiring.

Lagos, do you have notes in those toyota books of a difference ? Maybe the only thing different is the ecu.

I'm gonna try and pick up some repair manuals tomorrow. I would also like to clear the air about wiring.

thank you!!! see we are making progress now as a team!

i think the wiring is 100% the same amount of work for the st and the gt since you are taking the engine harness and the ecu with you from your clip. the connectors for the body harnss and the interrior harness should be the same.

Ok, I went to and got as haynes manual for no reason. It does not have any info on the 3sgte. they have info on 3sge, 7afe, 5sfe and another I forgot what. I'll see if it has any info that could help us out.

On thursday, I'll be out again looking for manuals hopefully with better luck.

later
DEF

Hayes manuals aren't that great.. for instance, the hayes manual on the 6th gen celica also includes the 5th gen- and all the pictures and descriptions are for the 5th gen- it's horrible.

yeah I noticed that .. but we are working with a 5th gen 3sgte. so some of that info can help out.

believe it or not, some of the wiring diagrams that are in the back of the haynes are about the same ones you get in the official toyota wiring books.

belive it.. the best thing about the haynes manuels are the wiring diagrams.. they are the only thing worth buying them..

If you had an ST would it be easier to get a GT wiring harness so you don't have to extend the ST harness 30 some inches?

gt or st you have to extend the harness

This post has been edited by defgeph: Jun 10, 2004 - 5:30 PM

you know, you can just drill a new hole in your firewall. all the plugs connect to, or around your ECU. so, drill a new hole and then there is not need to extend anything.

im still not sure if im going to drill or extend mine tho.

after talking out my engine, harness and ECU, these are the plugs that were left in the interrior of the clip. they run to things like your gauge cluster, and anything else thats from the firewall back. this is the reason why you have to rewire. those interrior connectors where not wired up the same way in the 6th gen.

so even if you drilled a hole in the firewall, wouldn't you still have to extend those interior wires? Because those connections still are pointing the opposite way from where the harness would be coming from (out of the new hole). Or is there a way to turn those connections around along with the ECU so you wouldn't have to do that?

I see everyones view in this post, However Mike built my wiring harness months ago and my car has been ready to drive for 2 months now and we have had the same problem with it for that same amount of time, we have found that it is the wiring but without mikes diagrams i dont have the resources to fix the problem. I have e-mailed mike several times but all i get as an answer is "i am too busy get to you later", well thats not part of a community i want to be a part of, I believe Mike will eventually get around to helping me but I dont think he realizes the situation its put me in . I have already missed 1 national show and about to miss my 2nd, i am also about to lose my sponsor that i worked so hard to pick up over the last 4 years (corbeau). If its at all possible will anyone with some wiring diagrams to put a 2nd gen 3sgte into a 6 gen celica gt e-mail them to me, all i want is for my car to work. please. I feel it may make the magezines this year but not without it running. Please help!!! My email is lowclass21@yahoo.com or link to it off my cardomain site at http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/516799

3sgte fuse box



5sfe fuse box ...splits into 2 parts





notice how some things that the 5sfe handles in the main fuse box (like the (ST)starter) and the 3sgte dosnt have that. on the 3s that handled on the pass side kick panel.

if you take your 5s fuse box apart, youll notice a big ass plug. most of the mystery is in that one plug. i still have not figured out what each of those wired do . the 3s fuse box is kid of easy to figure out becasue you can just trace the fuses and youll see what the wires do.


anyone know what AM1, AM2 and CDS stand for?

This post has been edited by lagos: Jun 19, 2004 - 11:18 PM

one more add in to my last post, assume every one assumes this but the info is not just for a 2nd gen 3s to a 6th gen gt but a 2nd gen JDM into , i need the jdm diagrams,

thanks all

thankyou all for any help you have given, i have found my problem, Mike (qatar11) had 2 of the distibutor wires reversed at the ecu, switched them around waaaalaaa, engine idles, revs to red line , no hesitation , smooth idle, run great cant wait to get it out and drive it, just gotta finish hooking up the nitrous, blow off valve and front mount intercooler and i should be ready, thanks again!!!!!
PS, i found this without mikes help, he still has not replied any help at ALL....

thats great news. i wish my car ran. only thing left is the wiring, and right now it has me stumped!

There is no diagram that has those wires labled for that plug lagos?