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post Jun 26, 2004 - 1:45 AM
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yeah doggy's got some skill. Those skirts are just too much for my personal taste so I changed them to something more simple. The front I did was a little too plain so I changed it up a bit. Still brainstorming on the front view and I'd like the rear to look similar to Varis Arising II.

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post Jun 26, 2004 - 2:00 AM
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Wannabe i like the way you made the sketch...the sideskirts might be too plain but i do like how they come low to match the front and rear bumpers to keep the lines. lol! the sketch looks like ure lil anime car
post Jun 26, 2004 - 2:42 AM
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usdm side with no extra lines
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post Jun 26, 2004 - 4:50 AM
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Thats it, im out... no more stuff from me, if you want to create somthing on your own, then go and do this.. If you wanted to wait, then you would waited for all the stuff that i have done. Now that are like 6 more designs, there will be a lot of desidions going on. Like: i like this and that and this is too much and stuff... If you waited for the photoshop picture of the full kit, you could judge by then, but now i just cant help you guys.

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post Jun 26, 2004 - 8:52 AM
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YOU F*****G BABY! WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM? GROW UP! You do some good work, but face it, not everyone is going to like it, and not everyone is going to like my ideas either. Why in the hell should we wait for you anyway? Maybe you could be a little more mature and use some of the ideas we've thrown out here to make your kit more appealing. I thought you seemed like a cool guy but now it just seems like you're a two year old who doesn't know how to share. You know what; maybe I shouldn't be so harsh since english isn't your first language. Possibly something was lost in translation, or maybe you didn't read my post when I said...
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post Jun 26, 2004 - 9:47 AM
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On a more positive note... new idea for side skirt.

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post Jun 26, 2004 - 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ Jun 26, 2004 - 5:12 AM)
played around with it some more... next thing I'm gonna play with is the front view. Little bit intimidated by doggy though he's got some good stuff but my tastes are a little more simple.

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BLITZ!


That looks like an eclipse.

.... but i like it biggrin.gif
post Jun 26, 2004 - 4:46 PM
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- never mind -

This post has been edited by doGGy: Jun 26, 2004 - 4:51 PM


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post Jun 26, 2004 - 4:49 PM
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QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ Jun 26, 2004 - 6:52 AM)
YOU F*****G BABY! WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM? GROW UP! You do some good work, but face it, not everyone is going to like it, and not everyone is going to like my ideas either. Why in the hell should we wait for you anyway? Maybe you could be a little more mature and use some of the ideas we've thrown out here to make your kit more appealing. I thought you seemed like a cool guy but now it just seems like you're a two year old who doesn't know how to share. You know what; maybe I shouldn't be so harsh since english isn't your first language. Possibly something was lost in translation, or maybe you didn't read my post when I said...
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Hope you don't mind Doggy... Don't wanna step on any toes...

Thanks, i apreciate all that you just said. You know what, you know why i am pissed? Not that you did somthing, not for that you trowed some ideas (some of them there really good), but for: IMAGINE, like i was speaking, i was in the middle of my thought that i was telling, and some one just walked and said HIS opinion, and didnt listen TILL THE END WHAT I SAID. Ya, thats my problem, and i wount go into more discusion.

And i ****ING DONT EVEN CARE IF YOU LIKE WHAT I DO OR NOT, i know what i do, and I DO THIS FOR MY SELF to make MY self happy NOT YOU or anyone else. So the one that needs to GROW up is you if you think that I CANT FACE JUDJING and critics. I saw so much critics in my life, that you could killed your self if you faced this what i had faced. i do WORK as a designer, and i made a lot of stuff for a lot of people, and all they RESPECT me for one reason, I ALWAYS ADMIRE CRITICS, AND OTHER suggestions. PERIOD.

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Why in the hell should we wait for you anyway?


I asked, if you need help from my side (as long as i saw and read, some of you respected my opinion, like i respect all yours opinions) and i thought that i could help in this case to build somthing unique. I offered my help cuz as long as i see, NO ONE here took his time and efort to make CLEAR DESIGN that everyone could understand and make it RIGHT, that even guys that will build this kit, could take a look at the scetches and say, YA I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS. I offered my help to make a detailed images OF EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE BUILD FOR THE KIT, to make a CLEAR IMAGE of every detail, that then people build this kit wount USE THEYR imagination and add stuff that YOU ALL WOUNT LIKE. I wanted to make everything right, but i gues i am "F*****G BABY!" Just from the good wil, just to make ALL our 6 gen family happy and stylish. but from hearing things like you said, that i am 2 years old, and i cant shear things, well, what else can i say.

P.S. i read everything CLEARLY, i understand English just like my own Language, but somtimes i just can express what i feel and what is in my mind clearly in english, so i think there are some missunderstandings in my words that sometimes i write. Forgive me for this. If you ever tryed to say so much things in my language, you would know HOW I FEEL.

P.S.S. Only the People who knows me can JUDGE am i COOL or im i totaly sucker. if you judge just from the emotional look, then you NEED to learn a leason in your life, or mybe i dont know, maybe this is the way people are judged in US.

Sorry, maybe i missed somthing...



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post Jun 26, 2004 - 4:50 PM
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ok i can see both points and i'm not taking a side. i think that we should've waited to see the end result of ROMAS' kit though. I STILL WANNA SEE IT........
and if you could doggy, pm i need help designing a rear
post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:03 PM
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guys, doggy isn't mad because you changed it, he's just upset that you started to change the design before it was even completed. you didn't get his whole picture before you wanted to make the picture your own.

that's just a 3rd party observance.

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post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:18 PM
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Yeah.. and personally, doggy's half finished design looks better than any finished design on here so far.

Doggy, I'm going to play around with photoshop and try and take your front design kit and photoshop it on, with no changes, is that cool or do you want to do it yourself?
post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:28 PM
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QUOTE (shid @ Jun 26, 2004 - 3:18 PM)
Yeah.. and personally, doggy's half finished design looks better than any finished design on here so far.

Doggy, I'm going to play around with photoshop and try and take your front design kit and photoshop it on, with no changes, is that cool or do you want to do it yourself?

Shid, i sayd that i wound do anything more... Its just me, i have a problem here.

No i never mind, and never did smile.gif Take you time do what you want, it doesnt matter no more for me.

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post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:31 PM
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doggggyyy don't take that attitude. :/
post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:33 PM
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So I don't understand, why are you upset Romas? And why is Wannabe being so strange? I think it was absurd to call him a "****ing baby"


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post Jun 26, 2004 - 5:47 PM
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QUOTE (Akimbo @ Jun 26, 2004 - 3:33 PM)
So I don't understand, why are you upset Romas? And why is Wannabe being so strange? I think it was absurd to call him a "****ing baby"

well, i dont want this treat to become another useless tread that will be delited, those who want to talk and to know what happend and what is going on, can always find me on AOL.

There are some things that make me upset, but thats is just me.


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post Jun 26, 2004 - 7:13 PM
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Yeah.. and personally, doggy's half finished design looks better than any finished design on here so far.


Well said. I know there are a number of us on here who would appreciate your continued efforts here. Lets be realistic. A kit will only be made by a professional company if THEY think they can sell enough copies to make a profit. Is the average car enthusiast with little design experience and half rate photoshop skills (Not a flame - I have none yet) going to be able to put together something that we as a community can convince a company to mass produce? I doubt it. With a talented designer and well thought out design, this has a realistic chance of happening. My plea would be for Doggy to reconsider his position for the betterment of all 6gc'ers.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 26, 2004 - 7:43 PM
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doggy, i feel for you man. a few days ago i posted that i had drawn up an original sketch for this kit. i do need help posting it, but got no reply. that's cool, i just thought i'd share the stuff i had in my head. i literally had this front end drawn about 3 yrs ago, and was kinda psyched about maybe getting it produced. or even just to have ya'll evaluate.
don't get discouraged, i was really surprised when i saw your design, it's kinda like mine. if you haven't guessed by now, i too am an artist. i've had really good pieces criticized, stolen, and even destroyed. it kills you inside, unless you are an artist, you wouldn't understand. so, maybe we shouldn't be so critical.
doggy, do what you do. just don't forget that some on here really do appreciate your effort. peace.....
post Jun 26, 2004 - 8:02 PM
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yo R if you still need help posting the pic hit me up on AOL....icyblackcelica....
post Jun 26, 2004 - 9:55 PM
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You know what Doggy? I apologize for being so harsh. I think we would all love to see your finished design. The reason I was so harsh is cause you just gave up and I didn't understand why something like this would upset you so much (I still don't completely understand but that must be because I'm not an artist). I wasn't trying to change your design, honestly I wasn't. I just used your base celica sketch for something to start with and make my own more realistic version of my signature. I didn't say this was bad or that needed changed, I just wanted to share my ideas as well. Constructful critisism is what I thrive on and enjoy doing my best to make everyone as happy as possible. I guess we're just different in that regard. I apologize again for the crude words and hope that you realise I'm not trying to change you or your design.... I was just frustrated that someone as respected and skillful as you wouldn't show us the finished product. If I say please will you share it with us? pretty please?


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