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post Jul 24, 2004 - 5:00 PM
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I just took of my wheels to put my sideskirts on and I snapped of 2 studs and stripped another two. I have this problem before also, am I the only one or does toyota just make these easy to break???
post Jul 24, 2004 - 5:45 PM
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Sounds like its a problem with how you take off the lug nuts. What are you using? An impact gun or just one of those gay cross wrenches with the four sockets on them? I haven't had a problem with that before I don't know about anyone else though.
post Jul 24, 2004 - 5:59 PM
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that has happened to me before. not that many lugs but before. i think its because auto shops, when they put wheels on cars they use impact guns which can cause cross threading. Time is also a factor, since you screw and unscrew them all the time (rotating tires, brakes, exhaust, etc.).
post Jul 24, 2004 - 11:57 PM
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I've just been using my torque wrench. I have used an impact wrench before also. No matter what I use at least one breaks every time. mad.gif
post Jul 25, 2004 - 1:30 AM
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what do you torque your lugs to? You're probably put them on too tight.
post Jul 25, 2004 - 1:40 AM
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103 ft/lbs or in/lbs, I don't remember which one, but its what my manual says to torque them too.
post Jul 25, 2004 - 2:34 AM
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76ft/lbs
post Jul 25, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (95STHATCH @ Jul 25, 2004 - 7:34 AM)
76ft/lbs

I'm looking at my manual now and it says 103 ft/lbs
post Jul 25, 2004 - 11:08 PM
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76 is the correct torque. Most toyota's torque to this spec. I checked my manual and thats what it says. If you want send me your email and I'll send you the shop manual in PDF that gives lug torque specs.
post Jul 26, 2004 - 7:19 AM
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i have taken my wheels off about a billion times and not a single one has broke off. I use a break bar also and tighten them down pretty tight.


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post Jul 26, 2004 - 11:02 AM
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I autocross my 6th gen GT extensively. I probably change wheels and tires at least 10 times a month. I have never had a stud break. I bust them loose with the tool in the trunk, unscrew with a cordless drill. The lugs go back on with the drill, and then finish with a torque wrench to 80 ft/lbs.

I think you are over-tightening the lug nuts.

That said, I will say that I have had a couple of the nuts want to crossthread on me. I suspect that if you blammed them on with an impact (like a tire shop might do), that could cause you some grief. I have also had some of the nuts want to bind on me. Basically, what I did was to put anti-sieze on all the studs, and anti-sieze on the washer on the lug nuts (7th gen OEM GT wheels), and that solved the problem.

I don't know if I would recommend anti-sieze to everybody, though. If you don't diddle around with the car a lot, I would worry that they might work thier way loose. Since I do 2 or 4 tire changes every weekend during the summer, I don't sweat it, and just check it every month or so during the winter months.
post Jul 27, 2004 - 1:09 AM
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QUOTE (95STHATCH @ Jul 25, 2004 - 7:34 AM)
76ft/lbs

i broke mine once too...n the wheel guys told me it was only 45..then again, we do have different car's..but since then i only use my upperbody strength (i used to step on em with my feet frown.gif ) to tighten it and never had problems
post Jul 27, 2004 - 1:52 AM
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Why doesn't any shops ever use a torque stick on the air guns?! rolleyes.gif I wouldn't go to a shop & get my wheels removed if they dont own a set...
post Jul 29, 2004 - 5:39 PM
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I used to install tires at Sam's Club and we used torque wrenches on the air guns. I remember vivedly that we used 80 lbs. for every kind of Toyota.


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post Jul 29, 2004 - 6:12 PM
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QUOTE (Meonspeed @ Jul 27, 2004 - 2:52 AM)
Why doesn't any shops ever use a torque stick on the air guns?!  rolleyes.gif I wouldn't go to a shop & get my wheels removed if they dont own a set...

at discount tires we use torque sticks bolting the wheels back on, and we torque all toyota cars at about 80ft/lbs.

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post Aug 17, 2004 - 9:12 PM
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every toyota from the mid 80's too now torque's at 80ft/lbs except the new land cruisers! i take two or three sets of wheels off a day and put them back on with an impact gun and a torque stick, and have never had a problem with breaking them or crossthreading.

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