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> RSX-S Vs Celica 7A-FTE, gonna happen soon........
post Aug 17, 2004 - 12:45 PM
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nik whats your timing set at?
post Aug 17, 2004 - 1:43 PM
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QUOTE (hyp3rk1d @ Aug 17, 2004 - 10:45 AM)
nik whats your timing set at?

retarded to 6


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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
post Aug 17, 2004 - 10:59 PM
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yes, follow zipstrip's instructions

right now, as it is you are presurizing the crankcase, which makes the turbo spool later and will cause oil burning

the smaller hose that doesnt have the pcv needs to go to a vented catch can, and plug that smaller port on the intake manifold.

leave the pcv as it is.


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post Aug 18, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 17, 2004 - 8:59 PM)
yes, follow zipstrip's instructions

right now, as it is you are presurizing the crankcase, which makes the turbo spool later and will cause oil burning

the smaller hose that doesnt have the pcv needs to go to a vented catch can, and plug that smaller port on the intake manifold.

leave the pcv as it is.

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hey do you think this would work??


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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
post Aug 18, 2004 - 2:20 PM
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no hard feelings doggy, but that rsx s is going to win...


i still love ur 6gc


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post Aug 18, 2004 - 2:20 PM
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i now becuz my girl has one


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post Aug 18, 2004 - 8:23 PM
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QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 8:02 AM
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Is this race ever gonna happen?
post Sep 8, 2004 - 2:39 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.

Are you sure about that? I know of RSX-S's that run 13's with hondata/I/H/E. They are quick. I used to have a 6GC ST that would've been ass raped by my 7th gen GT-S. Trust me, I have much love for the 6g Celicas, but I don't think he will beat the RSX-S. They give me stiff competition, and I run mid 14's.
post Sep 8, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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QUOTE (phaqgm @ Sep 8, 2004 - 7:39 PM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.

Are you sure about that? I know of RSX-S's that run 13's with hondata/I/H/E. They are quick. I used to have a 6GC ST that would've been ass raped by my 7th gen GT-S. Trust me, I have much love for the 6g Celicas, but I don't think he will beat the RSX-S. They give me stiff competition, and I run mid 14's.

ST-T turbo , forced induction.... not naturally asperated. it isnt going to ass rape him i think he will win...
post Sep 8, 2004 - 6:10 PM
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not to mention his 7a is more powerful than ours.
post Sep 8, 2004 - 6:24 PM
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QUOTE (redtcel @ Sep 8, 2004 - 3:52 PM)
QUOTE (phaqgm @ Sep 8, 2004 - 7:39 PM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.

Are you sure about that? I know of RSX-S's that run 13's with hondata/I/H/E. They are quick. I used to have a 6GC ST that would've been ass raped by my 7th gen GT-S. Trust me, I have much love for the 6g Celicas, but I don't think he will beat the RSX-S. They give me stiff competition, and I run mid 14's.

ST-T turbo , forced induction.... not naturally asperated. it isnt going to ass rape him i think he will win...

I know it's a turbo 7A-FE. I'm not saying he's going to get assraped, but I don't know if he can beat the RSX-S. Believe me, I'd love to see the Celica win, but I just don't think it's going to happen (based off of the times posted previously by the 3S-GTE GT). My car is putting down just over 165whp, it's geared perfectly for my engine's power band, and only weighs 2500lbs. Like I said before, RSX-S's can be a bit of a problem to me, and if I make one mistake in the race, I'll lose.

I feel that the race will be determined by driver skill.

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post Sep 8, 2004 - 7:22 PM
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10 bucks on doggy
post Sep 8, 2004 - 7:56 PM
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QUOTE (phaqgm @ Sep 8, 2004 - 11:39 AM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.

Are you sure about that? I know of RSX-S's that run 13's with hondata/I/H/E. They are quick. I used to have a 6GC ST that would've been ass raped by my 7th gen GT-S. Trust me, I have much love for the 6g Celicas, but I don't think he will beat the RSX-S. They give me stiff competition, and I run mid 14's.

you would be very hard pressed to find a guy who has his modded rsx s running 13's on street tires.

i've raced a type s with my wrx back when it was bone stock, i would just leave the line quickly, and this guy didnt even bother with trying to take off fast(he didnt want to spin his tires)

he had intake, exhaust and no cat. it was loud, smelled, emmitted a little smoke when vtec kicked in and was quick

not until i was half way through 3rd would he catch up and slowly pass(~80mph)

btw, for those that dont know, 3rd gear in a stock WRX is a weak gear. thats where the ECU does the most boost drop off(14psi down to 7psi) and the 3 cats really bring down the efficiency of the turbo.

im not saying they are not fast little cars, its just that i know for a fact, that an ST-T is faster when at 8psi and open exhaust. i ran my ST-T at 3psi the day i completed the install and had it running properly

i adjusted the wastegatge rod so that it would only run 3psi and drove around open down pipe

boost hit at 2krpm with my t3 turbo, and it hit hard.

i took each of the 3 friends that helped me for a test ride, and on one test ride, i nailed it half way through 1st and in the shift to second the wheels broke loose, at only 3psi

then when i had the dp connected the the stock mid pipe i drove around for a while. and thats the time i raced the rsx s. from the midpipe back i had stock exhaust, including the cat. i was running 7psi on a cold night. caught up to him cuz he cut me off, and passed him like i said in an earlier post. from what i saw it definately had exhaust.

that was also the night i realised i was fuel cutting at full boost, i logged the SAFC and found that the map was reading positive presure, which when that happens, the ecu cuts fuel, bad for the engine, bad for acceleration.

btw my ST was automatic.

so, like i said, run 8psi, open exhuast(at the dp if possible) and practise launching in a way to take advantage of the ST's torquey first gear gearing, letting boost hit to give even better acceleration and then wind it through the gears keeping it in a gear as long as possible to take advantage of the wider powerband

you cant really compair a 3sgte to a 7afte. the 3s swap makes a lot of power, enough to the point where with street tires and an open diff, you will have lots of wheelspin problems in the 1/4 mile.

its not easy to pull off the times a turbo fwd car is capable of. my car was very easy to launch, power brake till boost builds to peak, and side step the brake.

with a 5spd, it will take some finesse, but its still easier to launch than an rsx type s which has no balls in 1st gear what so ever, and the only way to get good acceleration in 1st is to launch at a pretty high rpm and feather the gas, but that is hard to do, and can easily blow the race.


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 8:08 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Sep 8, 2004 - 5:56 PM)
QUOTE (phaqgm @ Sep 8, 2004 - 11:39 AM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Aug 18, 2004 - 11:20 AM)
i now becuz my girl has one

ever been in an ST-T?

the type S is quick, and has huge gains from IHE

but not enough to beat a ST-T if you run a ~8psi and unbolt the exhaust before the cat.

Are you sure about that? I know of RSX-S's that run 13's with hondata/I/H/E. They are quick. I used to have a 6GC ST that would've been ass raped by my 7th gen GT-S. Trust me, I have much love for the 6g Celicas, but I don't think he will beat the RSX-S. They give me stiff competition, and I run mid 14's.

you would be very hard pressed to find a guy who has his modded rsx s running 13's on street tires.

i've raced a type s with my wrx back when it was bone stock, i would just leave the line quickly, and this guy didnt even bother with trying to take off fast(he didnt want to spin his tires)

he had intake, exhaust and no cat. it was loud, smelled, emmitted a little smoke when vtec kicked in and was quick

not until i was half way through 3rd would he catch up and slowly pass(~80mph)

btw, for those that dont know, 3rd gear in a stock WRX is a weak gear. thats where the ECU does the most boost drop off(14psi down to 7psi) and the 3 cats really bring down the efficiency of the turbo.

im not saying they are not fast little cars, its just that i know for a fact, that an ST-T is faster when at 8psi and open exhaust. i ran my ST-T at 3psi the day i completed the install and had it running properly

i adjusted the wastegatge rod so that it would only run 3psi and drove around open down pipe

boost hit at 2krpm with my t3 turbo, and it hit hard.

i took each of the 3 friends that helped me for a test ride, and on one test ride, i nailed it half way through 1st and in the shift to second the wheels broke loose, at only 3psi

then when i had the dp connected the the stock mid pipe i drove around for a while. and thats the time i raced the rsx s. from the midpipe back i had stock exhaust, including the cat. i was running 7psi on a cold night. caught up to him cuz he cut me off, and passed him like i said in an earlier post. from what i saw it definately had exhaust.

that was also the night i realised i was fuel cutting at full boost, i logged the SAFC and found that the map was reading positive presure, which when that happens, the ecu cuts fuel, bad for the engine, bad for acceleration.

btw my ST was automatic.

so, like i said, run 8psi, open exhuast(at the dp if possible) and practise launching in a way to take advantage of the ST's torquey first gear gearing, letting boost hit to give even better acceleration and then wind it through the gears keeping it in a gear as long as possible to take advantage of the wider powerband

you cant really compair a 3sgte to a 7afte. the 3s swap makes a lot of power, enough to the point where with street tires and an open diff, you will have lots of wheelspin problems in the 1/4 mile.

its not easy to pull off the times a turbo fwd car is capable of. my car was very easy to launch, power brake till boost builds to peak, and side step the brake.

with a 5spd, it will take some finesse, but its still easier to launch than an rsx type s which has no balls in 1st gear what so ever, and the only way to get good acceleration in 1st is to launch at a pretty high rpm and feather the gas, but that is hard to do, and can easily blow the race.

Great reply!

OK, we all just need to stop bench racing and find out what really happens/happend.
post Sep 8, 2004 - 8:13 PM
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i wish i still had my ST-T, i would have found a guy when this topic was first made and put it to rest, lol

bench racing is kinda stupid, but i was just talking from experience.


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post Sep 11, 2004 - 11:40 PM
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so is the race going to happen?
post Sep 13, 2004 - 4:58 PM
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The Celica would win. It's only a quarter mile...the Celica has more torque...and doesn't have to rev to heaven to get to the powerband. You'll take him. Unless he's got some goodies. My buddy is running 13.8-13.9s with a Hondata ECU, Integra Type R goodies, intake, exhaust and other stuff. The car pulls pretty hard for being a torqueless NA engine.


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ok, seriously, whats going on with the race?


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post May 18, 2005 - 4:40 PM
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Hahah, this races never happend, it will happen this summer i guess, cuz still the RSX im going to race looks like this now:

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And my celica is almost looking the same smile.gif Guess you guys will have to wait biggrin.gif



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