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listen dude. if you have a new car that has a cd player built into the dash like the new line of mazdas, mercedes, and bmw, your gonna rip it out and put i na new hu? that destroys the look of a car. Rider is not trying to make a competetion system or anything, he just wants more bass. Ive used line out converters before and they sound just fine. if you compare the line out to the new alpines out there then u have a little difference. but for someone who doesnt even know what to listen for, its fine. i have a 2005 slk 350....im putting subs in it. theres no way in hell i am replacing the hu cause its a gps and everything. line out converters work just fine, have u ever heard one?

Wow, good for you Mr Benz man;

guess what- he DOESN'T have a benz, his CD player is a CRUMMY OEM toyota CD player; it converts the signal to ANALOG after reading it digitally

Of course I've heard a line out converter-

and probably unlike you, I actually know how to make one with the right parts- because I know how they're made I have the unique ability to tell you how crappy they convert the signal-

what you're suggesting is akin to an analog RCA signal being almost equal to a digital opticat or coax signal- thats how wrong you are.

An aftermarket HU is almost always better than the one built into the car- and on our cars an aftermarket HU looks FINE; our HUs AREN'T built into the dash- so stop acting like they ARE

You're wrong on a number of issues, and everyone knows this BUT you- which tells me you'll like any number of "MECP certified installers" who don't know jack **** about anything- because most of them don't; which is why the only smart way to do an installation is to do it yourself. If you really are MECP certified.

This post has been edited by shid: Oct 22, 2004 - 1:34 AM

dude! he doesnt wanna spend the extra money on a new hu! he doesnt NOT have to buy a new hu to get good sound. he will get good sound with his stock hu. he also has an 8 speaker sound system. he does not want to buy the extra amps for his speakers! i know that a new hu will sonud good. but i also like to give the customer what they want rather than make him buy stuff he doesnt need. hes happy with the sound now, all he wants is a little more bass. plus he has a double din hu, sure he could go out and buy a multi poccket for it and put a din one in there, but din size radios in a double din slot look awkward. im not gonna make him go out and drop a grand on a system

buy my subs
2 Kicker Solo Baric 8" L7s
come with amp, and box, and wiring, if you really plan to crank em though you will need a capacitor

you'll be more than happy w/ bass, i could never crank em cuz if you have an aftermarket sunroof it rattles like no other unless.

Yo, dumbass; he already has 2 amps in his car- I've told you that- taking out the stock HU isn't going to make him get amps- he'll still get better sound. Furthermore, he's going to get better sound for cheaper out of a HU than out of the speakers you're helping him get.

With the setup you're recommending him now- his sound quality will actually DECREASE.

i concur with everything shid said, and i call BS on that ur a MECP certified...hell u prob dont even know wht an Ohm is without looking it up on the net

oh shid i disagree wit u on one thing....not ALL MECP installer are bad...dont forget i am one.


did u know jags have there system thoruhg fiber optic cable? thats crazy

Actually Pali, I didn't know that- but like I said, I said MOST Exceptions to every rule- but I wouldn't trust any kind of "professional" audio installer unless I knew them (like I know you)


I did NOT know that Jags have their system through an optic cable- that's ****ing awesome.

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the 8-speaker sound system?

EDIT: Fujitsu Ten Limited

This post has been edited by Rider: Oct 23, 2004 - 10:09 PM

i know its crazy, i tried to switch out one of the other employees speakers (in a jaguar) and i was like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dun think i can do this, and i dont think u WANT to do this.

haha he got quoted 2000 dollars to install a damn cd changer in his caR

shid...i understand what you are trying to say...but at least try to understand me....his hu right now pushes out very minimal rms watts. if he gets a new hu, the rms will almost double. If the power going into the factory amps, doubles, the power coming out if the amp will be at least twice as much power, as opposed to the stock hu...that will sound really bad and could damage his speakers...like your still not understanding my point...if he didnt have the factory amps id say hell yea go out and buy an alpine but, in this case that would lead to a lot more $$$ and pali...since ur an mecp u should know that too. we could just buy a new hu, and buy an amp integration harness, but we still needa track down a wiring harness for the 8 speaker system, which we would prob have to look for online. if the line out sux, which it shouldnt cause ive installed them in a few cars (acura rsx, saab 9-3, mazda 3), they came out fine

You don't have any clue what you're talking about, how electricity works, how a HU connects to the amps, or any of that. You might not be a worthless human being, but when it comes to sound systems, your value is in negative canadian dollars.

The factory amps put out about 10 W; WHEN YOU INSTALL A NEW HEAD UNIT YOU BYPASS THE FACORTY AMPS. A NEW HU WITH 25 RMS POWERS STOCK SPEAKERS OR BETTER FINE; AND GIVES BETTER QUALITY

U DONT NEED A GOD DAMN HARNESS; wire it YOURSELF if you have HALF A FRIGGIN BRAIN

This post has been edited by shid: Oct 24, 2004 - 12:23 AM

the damn harness for his radio doesnt even have negatives for the front and right speakers....plus he has 3 speakers in each door

Steps to take: 1) buy generic toyota harness. It will cover this
Step 2: Remove the plug going into the amp, start splicing wires
Step 3: Get a clue

if a hu has nough juice juice in it for 8 speakers, and it sounds good ill be impressed

.....

See above, you have no clue how electricity works.

with an aftermarket HU, you'd be nearly doubling the amount of power every speaker gets from the stock amps- regardless of 8 speakers- thats how little power the stock amps provide

This post has been edited by shid: Oct 24, 2004 - 12:29 AM

he doesnt even need a new hu tho...only for the subs maybe. cause otherwise it sounds really good

im just tryin to do this in the most cost effective way.......and before i coulda swore u were sayin u didnt have to bypass....thats why i was like wtf

If you add subs, without a new HU. If you do not replace his HU now; you are killing his system. You are forcing him to- down the line; buy more and more stuff.

Do you not understand that the HU is what drives the system- its what provides the sound for the rest of it. Adding subs to the stock system will barely do ****; it doesn't even send out power for sounds below 40 hz or so. Don't believe me? Go test it with an audio range CD.

This is my last reply to you- you obviously don't have a clue and I strongly hope he doesn't listen to you all- otherwise he's not going to have a system worth listening to.

maybe thats how u guys install line outs on the west coast cause every car ive seen and heard with a line out on the east coast, is fine...we will find out tomorrow how it sounds

theres not way in hell a line out converter is going to sound as good as a new HU.....might as well save the time and buy at least a half decent HU....celicruiser what are you installing....sounds like this guy wants just that little extra kick for like a really low buget....how much money does he have to spend...maybe we can get a little something going for him..

unless he wants really cheap then just get POS amp and a set of 6x9s hahahah jk