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plyr - dissamebly your 5th gen ones and if the motor looks the same as what I posted for ya then you should be able to do this no prob... the mirrors arent hard to take apart... diffenly follow the howto on the UK site.. and HEATING the screws underneath makes a HUGE difference.

I cant really see it being too hard to fit the motors into the 5th gen version cuz they look alot like the 6gc ones.. the only thing that might cause probs is gettin the 6gc glass in there.... alot of that would depend on how the insides are

my suggestion:

take it apart and check everything out. if it looks like a go then get r done and well figure out wiring later... its only about 7 wires max

dbl post

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Nov 6, 2004 - 12:31 AM

mmmk
well i'll take a mirror off in a few days.....and pop things open on the jdm and usdm and take sum pics

well do the JMDs one 1st.. I got some pics of the USDM ones opened up.. some are posted here and can take more if I need too.. that way you dont possibly mess up your stockers if you end up not being able to swap the mirror shells

OK sorry, it's me that's made a mistake.

What I've done is use different codes for wire colors each time.
In one place I've abbrieviated Light Green to LG and in another place LGR. So LG/R and LGR/R are the same thing.
I'll go back and edit my posts so that everything matches.
Incidently, I know that the UK and US colors match up because the circiut diagram I've got is a US one and it matches my car.

The + and - from the mirrors do go directly to the + and - of the control unit. I didn't mark the control unit connections as + and - because it doesn't matter which way they go. The button on the control isn't marked, it just presses in and out, so it works both ways round.

now do your mirrors work both ways? or maybe Im missunderstanding. cuz for mine to work I had to use all for pins with two wires jumped over to the other side of the harness and had to use two reverse polarity relays.

*Update on mine*

well reassembled everything on the driver side mirror and hook both up... WORKED PERFECTLY.. right up until the glue gave out on the main gear.. posted about that before, so gonna try a stronger adhesive and if that dont work.. well time for a new motor but otherwise the mirrors KICKA$$

Edit: someone should start goin threw all this jumbled info we got and make a newtopic/HOWto type thing... like a thread that doens have replies.. just the straight up info

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Nov 6, 2004 - 1:02 PM

Once I get mine I will make a good how-to with pictures. (probably Tues or Wed)

I still don't understand why NEVER's are wired with those 4 pins...and works...

if your talkin about the 4 pins on the mirror harness it has to be that way.. the motor is only a two wire motor that when pos is ran threw one wire it moves clockwise and when the power is moved threw the other wire it moves counter. It wont work if you dont use all 4 pins... at least not for my setup

ok this is what I have so far.



I just matched up the colors on the switch. Whats up with the pink wire ?



Not sure how to wire. I didnt want to short anything out.



housings are interchangable. I couldnt get the screws lose on the usdm's so I couldnt transfer the base.

I'm not sure where to go next. Should I use my JDM relay ? What Wires do I splice together ?


DEF

This post has been edited by defgeph: Nov 7, 2004 - 9:55 PM

turboinduction said his are from a 97. My best guess right now is : 94-95 ? there was the 2 wires directly to the mirrors to fold them.

96+ there was 1 wire (pink) to go to the relay then to the mirrors to fold them.

It is a design change and an improvment. This is why, if there is a short in the system somewhere it would toast your switch and your mirror motors. Wrong current wrong time = bad. The relay is also a fuse. If there is a short the relay blows, and you can replace that instead of your switch or motors.

that is my best guess.

Keep in mind, if you have 1 wire or 2 you can keep your USDM mirror control and wire the mirrors to an external switch for folding...

on a side note, I might wire mine to retract when I arm my alarm and unfold when I disarm

I so agree with this.

I was gonna hook the mirrors up to the power antenna.. that's about the only thing I can think of in the whole car that powers automatically when you turn the car off.. and when you turn it on... plus it should have a relay that would reverse the polarity and since I disconnected mine the day I got the car I have no need for it sittin in the trunk nemore

Gonna try and figure out a setup where the antenna will control it but I will also be able to use the switch I have been using,.,

BTW I really need to purchase the guts for a driverside JDM mirror.. have decided that mine is junk... only works when I apply pressure to the motor itself and give it power = soo if ne of you decide to say to hell with folding mirrors - HIT ME UP!

IT IS COMPLETE !!!!! Done.

I didn't bother to use the JDM control switch, I just wired the mirrors to a switch. I am the coolest man alive

EDIT : I will have a vid tomorrow of them in action

This post has been edited by Batman722: Nov 9, 2004 - 5:29 PM

if ne of you have an extra control switch.. either jdm or Usdm lemme know cuz I need some parts outta it

edit: Congrats batman! there fun arnt they

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Nov 9, 2004 - 6:10 PM

I gots an extra USDM control switch. Actually 2 after I'm done with this project. Why would you need a USDM one?

-Ti

I didn't use my JDM one. I will sell it to you. PM me

hey batman, Congrats.
How did you wire the power fold ?

Thanks. OK, from each of my JDM mirrors there were 7 wires (3 on the US). I replaced the stock mirrors with the JDM ones and started splicing, here we go...

JDM mirror wires
these control the mirrors l/r/u/d
RED = to RED
BLACK = to BLACK
BROWN = to BROWN
just connect them like the US mirror wires, same colors

these control the folding motors, both sides are the same
BLUE = + for retract
LITE GREEN = - for retract
YELLOW = - for return
DARK GREEN = + for return

I ran 4 wires on each side (2 sets of speaker wires) from each mirror to the dash. On each side you have to go from the door to the interior to up under the dash. I then connected all of the same wires (yellow driver's side connected to yellow pass side, ect..), 8 wires are now 4. These 4 wires are ran to a 3 way toggle switch I put in beneath the dimmer. I then ran the power from the cig lighter. With the 3 way toggle, down is retract, up is return to normal position, and middle is the ready posititon for the switch.

IMPORTANT : I tested the mirrors first and you should too. I ran a power wire from the cig lighter (when you unplug the cig lighter, white plug, there are 2 wires, grey + and white/black -) put the + to the blue (+) and the - to the light green (-) wires and watch them fold then try the same for the yellow and the dark green and watch them return

also, my wires might be different than yours but I doubt it, so you need to test them.
any questions ?

Thanks thats so simple !!

Just to be sure look at the pictures I posted above. I have pics of my wiring.

Did you swap out the usdm mirror motors or did you keep the JDM's ?

I'll try them with the JDM mirror motors. If they dont work then I'll swap them.

Thanks for the easy to understand info. Please double check my pics thanks dude

DEF

you guys have made alot of progress in this. I cant wait to see how the antenna thing works out. Ive thought about that for years.