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while doing that, how about a st205 wrc edition front clip?

This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Oct 1, 2004 - 8:08 PM

if its like 2500 to 4000 to buy the clip shipped....just wondering and even if possible how much would a whole gt-4 car cost to ship...

one more....if i know someone that lives in japan....can they send me it...or is there a liecense you need or something..

This post has been edited by Gilbert_619: Oct 1, 2004 - 4:14 PM

do a search gilbert this has been covered ALOT, you should find what info you need in alot of our other threads.

Ron, i was wondering how much the total cost would be for send ing a st185 front clip to wauesha, WI. (zip 53018). How many miles areon the car and do u have any pictures or more information

Here is the bottom line on St185 front clips. They are too OLD to trust in finding one in decent shape. You might have compression, but the last 10 I have seen have not looked clean appearance wise. Burnt oil under the oil cap, high mileage, ect....

Also, ST185 engines are harder to wire in because they are not the engine that shares the 6g body style and therefor will be harder to interface into ones existing Efi. We feel much more comfortable selling St205 front clips as the mileage will be better and the engine overall is quite more robust then the St185.

With that said, our St205 front clips without sheet metal to the 6G forum members is between 2800 to 3500 shipped all day long. Turbo and intake manifold alone are worth the difference in price compared to the St185. Take the black market price away from the turbo and intake manifold and you are right there with the exact same price as the St185. And finally, there is just no absolute comparison when you are talking about power output and torque charecteristics when comparing the two engines. St205 3rd gen 3sgte will run mid to low 12's with BOLT ONS vs 2nd gen St185 3sgte which will cost you a pretty penny to even break 12's. This is a fact gentleman on Mr2's as it is well documented.

Ron (951) 283-3778
Motors Unlimited

Are there local pickups? Or if we live neer by, can we atleast come and see what we are buying before hand?

Edit: I disagree



-3sgte Power Primer

This post has been edited by Doge: Dec 9, 2004 - 12:00 AM

I completely disagree with the who ever that is you quoted. It might even be someone well respected, but going by first hand info as well as dyno plots, you will need to do alot of modification to the 2nd gen 3sgte to get into the mid to low 12's and it is well documented that 3rd gens are doing this with boost controller, downpipe, intake and exhaust. That is a fact the must be looked at.

Ron (951) 283-3778
Motors Unlimited



Update: We currently have another Rc model 3sgte front clip with air to water intercooler. Price is 2500 shipped!


Thanks

Its also a fact that with the money that you save from buying a 2nd gen you can easily match and surpass the stock power of a 3rd gen. I would love to argue about it more but this isnt the place. Sorry to thread jack... the 3rd gen is a great engine.

I'd also like to ask you the question of where someone is going to get parts for the 3rd gen when someone here in the states needs something. Are you going to be able to keep people satisfied by making sure they are able to get what they need when they cant get here?

This post has been edited by Doge: Dec 17, 2004 - 4:41 PM

doge, getting parts for a 3rd gen is not as hard as everyone makes it out to be... Toyota World would most likely be able to help us out with that, not to mention EL prototypes, and god forbid Toysport.

And how often does something go out on an engine?

...it depends on how well you take care of your engine... but that's not really the issue... it's WHEN it does. Engines can go a long time without problems but some WILL occur no matter how meticulous you are.

yeh but most problems are evident before the car actually go's down. And, like I said the parts are not impossible to get.

With all due respect, your comments are more suited for posts that are about 4 years old. Everyone use to say the same thing about buying a 2nd gen and saving money to surpass the power of the 3rd gen. That might be possible in its absolute stock trim. However what us Mr2 owners have come to find out is that once you modify, such as intake, exhaust, downpipe, boost controller, you will be in a totally different realm with a 3rd gen. Those mods listed will get you into the 12's bottom line!! You will be in the mid to low 13's with the 2nd gen. This is not speculation, it is fact and has been proven by more then one Mr2 owner. And not being able to find 3rd gen parts is also a bit primitive as there is more then one Toyota dealership that stocks these parts. Jay Marks Toyota out of Texas stocks 3rd gen parts like water pump, oil pump, engine rebuild kit, cap and rotor, timing belt ect, for wholesale to the community. In addition, I supply our customers with 3rd gen parts from Japan as well.

Again, I am not trying to knock you at all, but the comments you have made are a bit out dated.

what year did the 3rd gen 3s hit MR2's? Cuz I know they updated to a ct20b in....ohh....i think 96?

You are right MR2Swift... my point can only be made once you go beyond just the basic bolt on modifications. They do indeed respond differently to bolt on mods... once you start going alittle more hard core the playing field starts to become more level... but not many people get to the point of further modification... especially someone here in the states, as just having a 3rd gen 3S is a HUGE deal... much less going through further modifications. Sorry to bring controversy... I wasn't trying to be a dick.

how about we quit arguing and get a bit more back on topic..

just sayin theres no need to be arguing over dyno plots and whos right and whos wrong..

the dude just wants to sell some clips.. and is letting us know he carries them.. lets carry on shal we?