 Sub Door Question, Redoing the Premium Audio package |
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 Jun 14, 2005 - 2:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
So I decided to finally go full aftermarket with the speakers in my celica. problem is that I have the premium audio package. I have a total of 8 speakers in my car.
These include: 8" paper woofers in the door 4"midrange components in the door 3/4" tweeters in the door 6x9 in the rear. I have already purchased a Pioneer 8600MP for the HU. And pioneer's 3 way 6x9 and 4" speaker. Would any one have any recommendations on subs that will fit the door? I want sound thats loud and crisp. I was going to go with Polk Momo 8" subs. Any further suggestions? I am going to make sure to get pictures of the project. I plan on moving the battery to the back. I have to do all custom wiring because of a funky "not standard" premium amp (the wiring harness for the 89+ toyotas doesnt match). Any comments would be more than helpful. |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 2:19 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
JL also has a great 8"
have you thought about an aftermarket amp? This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 14, 2005 - 2:19 PM |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 2:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Jun 14, 2005 - 7:19 PM) JL also has a great 8" have you thought about an aftermarket amp? [right][snapback]299040[/snapback][/right] Yes thought about an amp. Im not sure which model yet, but I know I want to wire the 6x9's and the 8's up. No way that the HU will power them to my liking. Does any 8" woofer fit the door? Depth and vibration a problem? |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 3:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 1, '02 From Pittsburgh, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you want to go with an 8 inch sub ( and not an 8 inch woofer, which I think is what the factory is ), I would definitely recommend an aftermarket amp.
How about this scenario: a 4 ch amp to power the subs and 6x9s, and your head unit to power the 4s and the tweets? As far as the depth question, our doors DO have a decent amount of depth. The problem is that if you want to use the factory mount for the speaker, you don't have much room for any size magnet on the speaker. In other words, the hole where the magnet would poke through is not very big. If you're willing to create your own speaker mount and maybe do a little cutting into the door - then YES, there's room. One last note on the subs: If you are buying TRUE subs, and not just woofers, then make sure you get something that is designed for infinite baffle and NOT for an enclosure. Unfortunately, most subs are designed for enclosures of some sort. If you don't, you probably won't be happy with the results. |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 4:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
you can always mount inverted do to lack of inner door space
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Jun 14, 2005 - 4:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '05 From Greencastle, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Blaupunkt has a slimline speaker and probably a sub.. gotta check on enclosure design
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Jun 14, 2005 - 4:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(runriot95 @ Jun 14, 2005 - 8:52 PM) If you want to go with an 8 inch sub ( and not an 8 inch woofer, which I think is what the factory is ), I would definitely recommend an aftermarket amp. How about this scenario: a 4 ch amp to power the subs and 6x9s, and your head unit to power the 4s and the tweets? As far as the depth question, our doors DO have a decent amount of depth. The problem is that if you want to use the factory mount for the speaker, you don't have much room for any size magnet on the speaker. In other words, the hole where the magnet would poke through is not very big. If you're willing to create your own speaker mount and maybe do a little cutting into the door - then YES, there's room. One last note on the subs: If you are buying TRUE subs, and not just woofers, then make sure you get something that is designed for infinite baffle and NOT for an enclosure. Unfortunately, most subs are designed for enclosures of some sort. If you don't, you probably won't be happy with the results. [right][snapback]299094[/snapback][/right] what exactly is the difference between "subwoofer" and "woofer"? I'll make sure to inquire about infinite baffle. |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 5:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '04 From Carmi, Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
subwoofers play lower, and woofers are mid ranges that play midrange frequencies... if you want the best sound get some components... you will want to power your woofers and speakers with an amp... id power everything off the amp and the 6x9"s off the deck.. actually...if you want an 8" subwoofer in your door, it needs to be free air capable... Kicker and JL have some of these that can suit your needs.. anyway as i said... power the Speakers off the deck, and the component set and sub/woofers off the amp... what kind of components do you have anyways?
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Jun 14, 2005 - 6:51 PM
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QUOTE(Scarrell @ Jun 14, 2005 - 3:59 PM) subwoofers play lower, and woofers are mid ranges that play midrange frequencies... if you want the best sound get some components... you will want to power your woofers and speakers with an amp... id power everything off the amp and the 6x9"s off the deck.. actually...if you want an 8" subwoofer in your door, it needs to be free air capable... Kicker and JL have some of these that can suit your needs.. anyway as i said... power the Speakers off the deck, and the component set and sub/woofers off the amp... what kind of components do you have anyways? [right][snapback]299140[/snapback][/right] Yeah, what he said. |
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Jun 14, 2005 - 6:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '04 From Montgomery, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
8" subs in the door won't give you much room trust me i know.....
  and it's nice to know you all thinkit's a good idea 
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Jun 16, 2005 - 2:13 AM
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i say defffffs do that. Pointikng the subs inward will give them more "bump" as heard mostly in techno. Instead of sounding muddy they will be more crisp and accurate...
Not to mention practicality...do you really want to do that kind of custom cutting? so much easier to mount em backwards -------------------- Speeding is only Illegal...
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Jun 16, 2005 - 1:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm actually going to go with a mid-bass driver in the doors. I'll have to figure out a way to put in two tens with out sacrificing any of the trunk space, which I need. If any of you have suggestions on good locations, with out going too custom, it would be awesome. PICS?
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Jun 19, 2005 - 11:12 AM
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One word: Fiberglass
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Jun 19, 2005 - 9:46 PM
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QUOTE(red94celicagt @ Jun 16, 2005 - 2:13 AM) i say defffffs do that. Pointikng the subs inward will give them more "bump" as heard mostly in techno. Instead of sounding muddy they will be more crisp and accurate... Not to mention practicality...do you really want to do that kind of custom cutting? so much easier to mount em backwards [right][snapback]299839[/snapback][/right] invert mounting a subwoofer will not change the sound of the driver one bit (ie, it won't give them more "bump) but what it will do is allow the possibility of more audible motor noise (anything from tinsel lead slap to hitting the backplate)...main benefit of invert mounting a sub is looks--no more, no less... peace |
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