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 Oct 12, 2005 - 11:48 PM
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Yea its best to just use both....theres been times that I'm VERY glad that I had a backup because you don't want to have to worry about that sort of thing or have it on the back of your mind. Its no fun.
Besides, condoms really arent that bad aside from the fact that I HATE the smell of latex....but I do like the sense of extra protection and not having to worry while in the heat of things. I'm going to try the Ultra Thin like Dr_Tweak said, the ones I have now feel like you stuffed your junk into PVC piping.... 
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Oct 13, 2005 - 12:10 PM
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I think the shot is lame - it takes away ur period and im sorry i like to have mine monthly because then i know for sure im not pregnant. Plus they dont know the long term effects of going months without having ur period. I say take the pill and use a condom!
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Oct 13, 2005 - 12:11 PM
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The long term effects of not having your period = becoming infertile.
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Oct 13, 2005 - 12:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
it really varies per person.
some girls are fine with the shot theres also the patch, the ring, the pill.. the least dangerous being the pill, because you have to take it more often. generally with birth control for women the lowest risk ones have the most work involved, so it all depends on how responsible you are. |
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Oct 13, 2005 - 1:32 PM
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Hey guys, thanks for the input. Sorry I haven't kept up with it, busy day yesterday. Yea, all in all, the girl I'm dating I met about 3-4 months ago, and she says shes been on it for a few years (not sure how many). The reason I was asking is because I just had sex with her for the first time the other day, which was also only my 3rd or 4th time doing it without the condom. Granted it felt great, was still a little worried about it. As far as side effects go, she seems to be unaffected. She's actually lost quite a bit of weight in the past year, and looks great, and doesn't seem to have any negative side effects (fortunately). But I figured I'd ask you guys a lil on it. thanks for the input, some of the stuff worries me for her though, like never getting pregnant. Not sure if thats an option she wants or is thinking about at this point in her life, but that would suck for her if she never could.
P.S. I put the 18+ in here because for one, these conversations could get a lil more graphic, 2) kids under 18 shouldn't really know what I'm talking about, and if you do, WEAR PROTECTION DAMNIT!!! and 3) wasn't sure if it was an appropriate topic for the forums. |
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Oct 13, 2005 - 4:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
haha, u want more graphical huh. well i only do it raw. condoms suck. i had a durex break on me cuz i guess it had a leak. plus if its super wet down there, u cant feel jack crap with a condom. there has to be some friction. plus i alternate between actual and oral sex throughout the "act", rubber's smell and leave a nasty taste on the kitty. as long as u stick to one partner and can trust them to do the same, the unsheathed method is the best way to go. after sex, u dont have to worry about spilling. 2nd rounds dont require extra care. plus theres nothing hotter than picturing ur woman walkin around with a lil pimp juice from ya.
o yea, the shot is only meant to be taken for 2 years at a time. bone loss is an unfortunate certain side effect. women who have used the shot may not get pregnant for a year after treatment. i dont think it causes unfertility. if it did, some organization would have rallied against it decades ago. just give the body some time to return to normal and she should be good to go. the patch just looks uncomfortable like what if it itches underneath but u cant scratch it. seems like a band aid. plus u have to find a new spot to stick it to every week. the pill is too tedious. u have to take it at the same time every day. if u skip the plecebo (reminder) pills u can skip ur period. REMEMBER: smoking and increased alcohol consumption lessens the effect of any medication and could make one sick. thats where the 1% of users become pregnant. they werent letting the medicine do its job. if there was a quarterly annual bc shot for guys, hell id do it. This post has been edited by forkee: Oct 13, 2005 - 4:17 PM --------------------  |
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Oct 13, 2005 - 6:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
They're working on a male contraceptive.
As for the issue of infertility "i dont think it causes unfertility. if it did, some organization would have rallied against it decades ago." that would only work if Depo Prevara had been around for decades. It's still new enough to be under patent protection. |
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Oct 13, 2005 - 6:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
my bad, i was thinking of the pill. im just saying depo provera has been approved by some federal regulated organization because it has been proven NOT to be life altering enough to cause infertility, otherwise it would not be as widespread as it is today.
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Oct 14, 2005 - 1:40 AM
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everyone I've heard of that has used depo have had horrible side effects... i was going to get on it a while back but decided against it when the Dr's said it can cause both physical and mental issues in some women... I'm on the pill... Only thing about it though... DON"T take antibiotics and have sex while on the pill... makes the pill not work, lol. As I know from experiance
 But yea... I never had any problems on the pill until I had antibiotics... It works great and never had any problems with it
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Oct 14, 2005 - 2:02 AM
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QUOTE(forkee @ Oct 13, 2005 - 4:25 PM) my bad, i was thinking of the pill. im just saying depo provera has been approved by some federal regulated organization because it has been proven NOT to be life altering enough to cause infertility, otherwise it would not be as widespread as it is today. [right][snapback]344363[/snapback][/right] As in the same way Vioxx was proven NOT to have any long-term negatives? Unfortunately, like most things created by humans, the drug testing regimen followed in even the most advanced states is hardly perfect. For instance, the long-term effects of Depo Prevara on bone density were not noted during the clinical trials the pharmaceutical company ran to gain approval. Whether that's because it didn't show up, or because of who was running the trial, is a matter of opinion. |
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Oct 14, 2005 - 5:30 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
like everyone has said, it varies between individual. vioxx got recalled because it was harmful to EVERY user. if EVERY woman became infertile from depo provera, then it too would be pulled off the shelf. but when prescribed to certain women who are less prone to its side effects, the benefits of the shot outweigh the hazards. the warning labels are out there. theyre on the box. whether or not people heed them, its their choice. thats what appeals to today's society..choice. having the shot as an option of birth control is important considering the amount of people who would have generally picked another method which they didnt like and end up not as satisfied.
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Oct 14, 2005 - 10:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Actually, Vioxx got recalled because it was potentially harmful. It did not give everybody who used it a stroke or heart attack. Many people used it and similar painkillers with no negative side effects. The problem was actually that there was an increased RISK of heart attack or stroke if you used Vioxx or other cox-2 inhibitors. That risk of harm was the reason for it being pulled.
Actually, I can't find direct evidence or testing that indicates an established long-term risk of infertility after using Depo Provera. The expectation is that there will be difficulty for 12-18 months after discontinuing the shot. As for side effects that have been established: QUOTE WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS AND RISKS OF USING DEPO-PROVERAŽ?
Depo-ProveraŽ, like all other medications, has many potential side effects. Each woman's response to the medication will differ, depending on her own body chemistry. It is impossible to predict who will or will not experience a certain effect. It is important to remember that once the medication is injected, side effects cannot be neutralized or reversed. Side effects include: Bone Density - Women who use Depo-ProveraŽ may lose significant bone mineral density. Bone loss is greater with increasing duration of use and may not be completely reversible. It is unknown if use of Depo-ProveraŽ during adolescence or early adulthood, a critical period of bone development, will reduce peak bone mass and increase the risk of osteoporotic fracture in later life. Depo-ProveraŽ should be used as a long-term birth control method (e.g., longer than two years) only if other birth control methods are inadequate. Smoking may further decrease the levels of calcium stored in the bone. It is very important that a woman's diet contain adequate calcium intake (1200-1500 mg per day). Although there are no studies addressing whether or not calcium and vitamin D may lessen bone marrow density (BMD) loss in women using Depo-ProveraŽ?, all patients should have adequate calcium and vitamin D intake. Calcium supplements may be used if one cannot attain the recommended dietary intake. Menstrual Changes - This is the most common side effect experienced. The amount of bleeding may vary from irregular or unpredictable spotting and light bleeding to no bleeding at all. With increasing duration of use, frequency and length of bleeding episodes usually decrease. In clinical studies, 55% of the women reported no menstrual bleeding after one year of use. Occasionally a woman will experience daily bleeding or bleeding may be heavier than a usual period, and this should be reported to the health care clinician. This side effect is related to the effect of the DMPA on the ovaries and uterine lining. Depression - Depo-ProveraŽ may cause moodiness and feelings of depression. This may be worse in women who have had depression in the past and may make it more difficult to treat active depression. If a woman is on antidepressant medications, she should discuss this carefully with all of her health care providers. Weight Gain - Depo-ProveraŽ users may experience an increased appetite. The average weight gain is approximately five pounds in the first year and eight pounds after two years of use. A healthy diet and regular exercise will help decrease weight gain. Other side effects that may occur include increased headaches, decreased sex drive, breast tenderness, acne, abdominal/pelvic cramps, bloating, hair loss or slow hair growth, vaginal dryness, fatigue and insomnia. If you experience any of these side effects or others that you think may be related to the Depo-ProveraŽ, you should contact your health care clinician. This post has been edited by Galcobar: Oct 14, 2005 - 10:50 PM |
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Oct 14, 2005 - 11:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From Jacksonville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(forkee @ Oct 13, 2005 - 4:13 PM) haha, u want more graphical huh. well i only do it raw. condoms suck. i had a durex break on me cuz i guess it had a leak. plus if its super wet down there, u cant feel jack crap with a condom. there has to be some friction. plus i alternate between actual and oral sex throughout the "act", rubber's smell and leave a nasty taste on the kitty. as long as u stick to one partner and can trust them to do the same, the unsheathed method is the best way to go. after sex, u dont have to worry about spilling. 2nd rounds dont require extra care. plus theres nothing hotter than picturing ur woman walkin around with a lil pimp juice from ya. [right][snapback]344323[/snapback][/right] I totally agree with you here. Condoms completely suck. I've had one slip off before.. and get stuck INSIDE me.. and we didn't notice until it was over.. and the condom magically wasn't there..? I've been on the pill now for a while now, and I love it. Although, I may be getting off of it soon. When Tom and I get married in February, we might want to start our own family. 
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Oct 15, 2005 - 1:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
dood....ur starting to piss me off....just what the **** is ur point
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Oct 15, 2005 - 1:41 AM
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What's all this about condoms breaking and falling off? I've used condoms for coming up on two years now with my wife, I've NEVER had one break, slip off, or any of the like.
I think maybe a lot of it has to do with how you put it on, you need to make sure it's installed right. The instructions are on the box  I suppose it also helps when you fill the condom up all the way... Regular condoms on me are tight to the point that I have to make sure it's on before I'm fully... enlarged... so that's probably why they never slip off 
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Oct 17, 2005 - 12:48 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My point? Accurate information. Health decisions shouldn't be made based on rumour and supposition.
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Oct 17, 2005 - 1:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '02 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
im just giving my opinion like everyone else. yet u constantly shoot down my observations. do u even have any experience from using the shot? u want accurate information? i give accurate information, information about MY experiences on depo provera, ortho tricyclen, and condoms. and thats what the whole thread was about, peoples real life experiences with the shot, not just copy and paste medical information. everyone has access to that. he wasnt asking for that.
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Oct 17, 2005 - 1:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE vioxx got recalled because it was harmful to EVERY user QUOTE im just saying depo provera has been approved by some federal regulated organization because it has been proven NOT to be life altering enough to cause infertility These aren't actually accurate statements, nor are they opinions where some latitude is expected. And the quote I pulled for Depo Prevara was for the simple reason -- nobody had actually quoted researched literature, just what they'd heard, in regards to the researched effects of Depo Prevara. I cannot, and have not attempted to, comment on Depo Prevara from a personal point of view. However, I do have the basic research skills to pull up established information and share it. Were I interested in sharing unsubstantiated information, I could link a batch of sites where women complain of side effects. BTW, if you dislike latex condoms, have you tried polyurethane? Rather more advanced material, with no smell or taste and being much stronger, is much thinner in condom form than the traditional rubber compound. |
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