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> No power steering = full control, haven't got them to work, might not too!
post Nov 28, 2005 - 6:54 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 28, 2005 - 11:43 PM) [snapback]360698[/snapback]

So, how would you go about converting? I've noticed the Celica's steering to be a little uninformative. There's not too much chance I'll switch to manual, but I'd still like to know how to do it. You're going to tell me it's not possable without a custom box since there aren't any Celica's without PS, aren't you?

Yes I am unfortunately. Unless there is a stripped down version overseas somewhere that came with a LHD manual MacPhearson rack... then it's probably gonna end up custom fabbed DYI. It can be done though... might be able to use... say an MR2's rack with custom ties or something...


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post Nov 29, 2005 - 1:48 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 28, 2005 - 6:54 PM) [snapback]360712[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 28, 2005 - 11:43 PM) [snapback]360698[/snapback]

So, how would you go about converting? I've noticed the Celica's steering to be a little uninformative. There's not too much chance I'll switch to manual, but I'd still like to know how to do it. You're going to tell me it's not possable without a custom box since there aren't any Celica's without PS, aren't you?

Yes I am unfortunately. Unless there is a stripped down version overseas somewhere that came with a LHD manual MacPhearson rack... then it's probably gonna end up custom fabbed DYI. It can be done though... might be able to use... say an MR2's rack with custom ties or something...


Not worth the effort, in other words then. At least not in my book. Not yet.


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post Dec 2, 2005 - 3:21 PM
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I used to hate driving in a parking lot with my 85' civic with no power steering but when I got the celica I began to miss the lack of powersteering. Also when I used to drive up my street in this civic I would just coast with the engine off for like a minute and then just glide and park in front of my house, kind of dumb but it was cool driving a car with no sound! tongue.gif
post Dec 9, 2005 - 11:52 AM
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I used to have no power steering in my '89 CRX, it was uncomfortable at first but you get used to it and it does feel like you have a lot of control compared to cars with ps.

Anyways... Can't you just drain the ps fluid or something?
post Dec 13, 2005 - 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Oct 19, 2005 - 5:02 AM) [snapback]346298[/snapback]

A true manual rack is different from a power steering rack that isn't working... As far as I know... I think ALL 6th gen celicas had power steering standard... I don't like broken power steering racks... I do however love a true manual steering rack.



CORRECT! Cant just drain the fluid... or bypass the pump...well you can, but thats retarded and its not the same as a true manual rack.


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post Dec 13, 2005 - 12:05 PM
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you'd need to remove the pump entirely and cap off all the lines you can't just drain the fluid...
post Dec 13, 2005 - 5:22 PM
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QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 17, 2005 - 5:18 PM) [snapback]345698[/snapback]

I dont have PS either, I love it.

DEF


its cause u drive a ****ing race car


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QUOTE(TheStreetzKing @ Dec 13, 2005 - 5:22 PM) [snapback]366796[/snapback]

QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 17, 2005 - 5:18 PM) [snapback]345698[/snapback]

I dont have PS either, I love it.

DEF


its cause u drive a ****ing race car

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post Dec 14, 2005 - 4:30 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 13, 2005 - 12:05 PM) [snapback]366694[/snapback]

you'd need to remove the pump entirely and cap off all the lines you can't just drain the fluid...

What more would this do over just draining the fluid or pulling the powersteering fuse? It's still going to be a powersteering set up that's just not working.


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post Dec 14, 2005 - 6:29 AM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 14, 2005 - 9:30 AM) [snapback]366991[/snapback]

QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 13, 2005 - 12:05 PM) [snapback]366694[/snapback]

you'd need to remove the pump entirely and cap off all the lines you can't just drain the fluid...

What more would this do over just draining the fluid or pulling the powersteering fuse? It's still going to be a powersteering set up that's just not working.


Well, you would burn out the pump.

Kwanza is right, there's a huge difference between a manual rack and a non-functional power steering rack. HUGE difference. The manual racks aren't hard to turn at all, they're very nice. Drive an MR2 sometime and you'll know what I mean.

I'll bet that the rack from a Corolla could be fabbed up without too much trouble.

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post Dec 14, 2005 - 6:45 AM
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QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Dec 14, 2005 - 6:29 AM) [snapback]367003[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 14, 2005 - 9:30 AM) [snapback]366991[/snapback]

QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 13, 2005 - 12:05 PM) [snapback]366694[/snapback]

you'd need to remove the pump entirely and cap off all the lines you can't just drain the fluid...

What more would this do over just draining the fluid or pulling the powersteering fuse? It's still going to be a powersteering set up that's just not working.


Well, you would burn out the pump.

Kwanza is right, there's a huge difference between a manual rack and a non-functional power steering rack. HUGE difference. The manual racks aren't hard to turn at all, they're very nice. Drive an MR2 sometime and you'll know what I mean.

I'll bet that the rack from a Corolla could be fabbed up without too much trouble.

-Doc

couldnt you just not run the belt?
i drove jeffs car once, and i must admit, i WOULD NOT wanna drive that thing in a city everyday. wink.gif


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post Dec 14, 2005 - 6:48 AM
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Yeap, you could remove the belt.


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post Dec 14, 2005 - 7:34 AM
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I'd like to do something to stop the numb feeling I get from this car. I just figured it was because it is FWD, but the more I learn, the more I think it's just this car. It would be hard for me to put in a lot of time, effort, and money to lower the value of my car and take away an upgrade like ps. I'd have to see if someone else actually seen an improvement with this.


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post Dec 14, 2005 - 7:44 AM
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I'd have to see if someone else actually seen an improvement with this

i think its more a matter of prefrence.
i personally would NEVER wanna drive my car without powersteering, especially after driving jeffs car.
jeff, on the other hand, dont seem to mind it at all.

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post Dec 14, 2005 - 2:54 PM
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Front engine car without ps is pooey... Mr2's without ps are fine...you barely can notice it and you do have nice feel of the road...mr2's front ends are lite weight though. My dad has a Sentra without ps and that car sucks to drive....it feels soo numb to me. I would never want a celica without ps...i think the ps is great on our cars...not too easy but not too hard...gives a nice solid feel to the car.


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post Dec 26, 2005 - 12:37 PM
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I drove cars without PS in China, it was wierd at first and almost cost an accident cuz I thought all cars in 2004 should have power steering.
You can feel the road better and feel much more control of the car, but parking is slow, all that turning. Once you start driving it doesnt feel difficult at all. It can build your arm strength and endurance at the same time.
But I wont give up my power steering, especially in NYC. Cutting lanes in n out of traffic on jam packed roads requires quick reflexs which would be impossible without PS, unless your arms are really built.

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