 The Celica is a sports car, or that's what Wikipedia says |
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 Feb 8, 2006 - 2:35 AM
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sports car? ... rwd, no roof, built to race
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Feb 8, 2006 - 4:36 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '02 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 7, 2006 - 8:48 PM) [snapback]390521[/snapback] QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Feb 7, 2006 - 10:42 PM) [snapback]390516[/snapback] QUOTE(Mike @ Feb 7, 2006 - 11:55 PM) [snapback]390348[/snapback] a FWD car can never be a sports car, I don't care what anyone says. so rsx-s, civic si, n/a 3000gt (fwd), srt4, eclipse turbo fwd (forgot if its gsi or gsx?) just to name a few arent sports cars? bboy i would have to say no. they fall under the "sporty" category, but are not what i would conider sports cars. supra, mr2, s2000, rx7, skyline, etc...are what i would call real sports cars. meaning that they are only produced for the enthusiast in mind and are build for performance thank you QUOTE(blu94gt @ Feb 8, 2006 - 12:27 AM) [snapback]390674[/snapback] lol any FWD isn't a true sports car. FWD cars can be sporty yes, but IMO none are true sports cars. Yes the VR4 3000GT and GSX (not the GST) Eclipses are a little closer to sports car because theyr'e AWD, but true sports comes in the line of NSX, Corvette, Supra, S2000, Cobra R, Porsche 911, Lotus Elise, etc. And to the guy who thought the Lotus Elise was FWD...I hope that was just a misunderstanding haha and thank you --------------------  |
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Feb 8, 2006 - 6:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(blu94gt @ Feb 8, 2006 - 7:27 AM) [snapback]390674[/snapback] And to the guy who thought the Lotus Elise was FWD...I hope that was just a misunderstanding haha The Elan was. And that was one of the finest handling cars money could buy. The DC5 is FWD, and will drive rings around 99% of RWD cars available. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
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Feb 8, 2006 - 6:52 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Really though, sport or not I only consider it a sport car if the engine runs on Premium, has kik a55 features (20V!!!), or is slapped by a turbo. Thats why the celica is not a sports car....Otherwise I would have to pay the price of a sports car....Insurance-wise
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Feb 8, 2006 - 8:55 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
When i pay my insurence its SPORT CAR premiums.
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Feb 8, 2006 - 9:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(soulshadow @ Feb 8, 2006 - 11:52 AM) [snapback]390708[/snapback] Really though, sport or not I only consider it a sport car if the engine runs on Premium, has kik a55 features (20V!!!), or is slapped by a turbo. Thats why the celica is not a sports car.... Funny that. My Celica wants 101 octane fuel, runs well over a bar of boost and has more "kick ass" features than you can shake a stick at. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
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Feb 8, 2006 - 11:25 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '05 From Charlotte NC Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
DAMMIT SCOTT! you havent been around in a bit and LOOK WHAT YOU STARTED!!! LMAO!!
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Feb 8, 2006 - 12:26 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '05 From green springs ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(blu94gt @ Feb 8, 2006 - 2:27 AM) [snapback]390674[/snapback] lol any FWD isn't a true sports car. FWD cars can be sporty yes, but IMO none are true sports cars. Yes the VR4 3000GT and GSX (not the GST) Eclipses are a little closer to sports car because theyr'e AWD, but true sports comes in the line of NSX, Corvette, Supra, S2000, Cobra R, Porsche 911, Lotus Elise, etc. And to the guy who thought the Lotus Elise was FWD...I hope that was just a misunderstanding haha ha ha my bad i forgot that the elise is a mid engine rwd ,i was just a little upset when he said that a sport car cant be fwd
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Feb 8, 2006 - 12:31 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 28, '05 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
some insurance company's consider ALL 2 doors to be sports car, check around your insurance company and see what they say, every company is different
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Feb 8, 2006 - 5:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '05 From Charlotte Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I would like to bring a car that most considers a true sports car, the Corvette, it's 2 door, 2 seat, RWD, handles good for it's weight, runs on premium, and in all it's a true sports car, one problem though is that the 1984 Vette came with a dual throttle body Crossfire 350 that only produced 205 horsepower, now this is a true sports car design yet even a 130hp Celica GT can give it a good run on the track. It's a matter of opinion and even though the '84 was lacking on power it didn't make it any less a sports car, but motor isn't everything.
Also insurance isn't the best judge, I had a '96 Mustang vert V6 that had higher premiums than a Viper, insurance uses a points scale based on different stats (amount of wrecks, vehicle thefts, crash ratings, etc.) . The SN-95 convertible had one of the worst crash ratings for a vert, it also was a lot more common meaning they're in more wrecks, then the Mustang is one of the most stolen vehicles in the US. Insurance doesn't base anything on power now, it's to difficult since you could have a V8 with 145hp and a 4 cylinder with 230hp. This post has been edited by darksecret: Feb 8, 2006 - 5:57 PM |
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Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM
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hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport.
Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. |
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Feb 14, 2006 - 2:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
Baseline:
Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... This post has been edited by tomazws: Feb 14, 2006 - 2:18 PM -------------------- |
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Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 1:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 7:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Not many out there - check 60 in less than 6 seconds and over 150mph - check sub 20 mpg - check Define 'Exotic' and 'Fast'? -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 1:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Valo666 @ Feb 7, 2006 - 11:22 PM) [snapback]390319[/snapback] my insurance considers it and my old 87 supra a 3door station wagon..lol. i think ill c if i can get my company to do that for a lower insurance rate lol. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 3:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '06 From Lima, ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(neoklis @ Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM) [snapback]393642[/snapback] hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport. Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. true QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM) [snapback]394012[/snapback] QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. how many z06 vettes have you seen, and they are exotic with a 0-60 faster that all but 1 ferrari, |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 5:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]394420[/snapback] QUOTE(neoklis @ Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM) [snapback]393642[/snapback] hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport. Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. true QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM) [snapback]394012[/snapback] QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. how many z06 vettes have you seen, and they are exotic with a 0-60 faster that all but 1 ferrari, I see plenty of Z06's, unless you're specifying the NEW 2006 model that's only been on sale for a short time and will comprise anywhere between 20-30% of all new corvette production. It's only a matter of time before you see one of them in every town as well. Now here's some trivia: how many Enzo's are being made? |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 6:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '05 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]394500[/snapback] QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]394420[/snapback] QUOTE(neoklis @ Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM) [snapback]393642[/snapback] hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport. Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. true QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM) [snapback]394012[/snapback] QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. how many z06 vettes have you seen, and they are exotic with a 0-60 faster that all but 1 ferrari, I see plenty of Z06's, unless you're specifying the NEW 2006 model that's only been on sale for a short time and will comprise anywhere between 20-30% of all new corvette production. It's only a matter of time before you see one of them in every town as well. Now here's some trivia: how many Enzo's are being made? just because a high number of that car is driven around your town doesnt mean its still not a sports car. come to souther california for one day and you will see what i mean... i see at least a dozen s500's in the 10 miles i drive to school... i see dozens of z06's... i see ferrari's and lamborginis on a daily basis (a silver ferrari 550 almost hit me today), my neighbor's daily driver is a very nice rx7... i dont think anyone here would argue that just because i see a lot of those cars every day that that makes them any less of a sports car. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 8:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '06 From Lima, ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]394500[/snapback] QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]394420[/snapback] QUOTE(neoklis @ Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM) [snapback]393642[/snapback] hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport. Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. true QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM) [snapback]394012[/snapback] QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. how many z06 vettes have you seen, and they are exotic with a 0-60 faster that all but 1 ferrari, I see plenty of Z06's, unless you're specifying the NEW 2006 model that's only been on sale for a short time and will comprise anywhere between 20-30% of all new corvette production. It's only a matter of time before you see one of them in every town as well. Now here's some trivia: how many Enzo's are being made? none they stopped making them, plus they knew who was gonna buy every single enzo before it was made, another peice of trivia how many fxx's will be made you know the fxx uses sparco seats ha ha takin stuff from the import scene This post has been edited by lilsteeg: Feb 15, 2006 - 8:06 PM |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 9:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(dlx742 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 7:38 PM) [snapback]394554[/snapback] QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]394500[/snapback] QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]394420[/snapback] QUOTE(neoklis @ Feb 14, 2006 - 5:35 AM) [snapback]393642[/snapback] hey guys, you seem to forget that there is also the GT4. And i dont think that anybody is really trying to say that the GT4 is not a sports car. Hint: WRC champion and ralying is a sport. Therefore, a sports car should be considered any kind of car that is built to be able to participate in racing and in general offer the driver something more than moving him from one place to the other. true QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 14, 2006 - 9:46 PM) [snapback]394012[/snapback] QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 14, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]393807[/snapback] Baseline: Celica = Economical Sports Car, or an Entry Level Sports Car... Wannabe Sports Car... Kinda Sports but Not Too Sports Car... Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche... bla bla = Exotic Sports Car, Fast Sports Car, OMG I Need Gas Again Sports Car.... Corvette's may be fast, but there's nothing exotic about them. You can go into any podunk town in America and find at least a dozen of them. how many z06 vettes have you seen, and they are exotic with a 0-60 faster that all but 1 ferrari, I see plenty of Z06's, unless you're specifying the NEW 2006 model that's only been on sale for a short time and will comprise anywhere between 20-30% of all new corvette production. It's only a matter of time before you see one of them in every town as well. Now here's some trivia: how many Enzo's are being made? just because a high number of that car is driven around your town doesnt mean its still not a sports car. come to souther california for one day and you will see what i mean... i see at least a dozen s500's in the 10 miles i drive to school... i see dozens of z06's... i see ferrari's and lamborginis on a daily basis (a silver ferrari 550 almost hit me today), my neighbor's daily driver is a very nice rx7... i dont think anyone here would argue that just because i see a lot of those cars every day that that makes them any less of a sports car. I'm not trying to say it's not a sports car. I'm just saying it's hardly exotic when every Tom, Dick, and Harry owns one. |
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