95celica st looking for higher performance, any solution except the engine swap |
95celica st looking for higher performance, any solution except the engine swap |
Feb 4, 2006 - 1:11 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Cutrara @ Feb 3, 2006 - 11:46 PM) [snapback]388747[/snapback] QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 10:34 PM) [snapback]388327[/snapback] QUOTE(Cutrara @ Feb 2, 2006 - 10:27 PM) [snapback]388322[/snapback] Yes, but not much. Many people will disagree with me when I say this, but I don't think the cost for a full custom exhaust justifies a few extra HP. IMO, the only time it's worth it to have an exhaust system is when you're turboed or swapped. You're right, there are people that won't agree with you. I don't like the thought that you have to have a turbo to do anything good. I'm just a NA guy. The 5sfe and 7afe aren't good NA motors, but they will pick up a couple hp from exhaust. If every little hp you can get matters to you, exhaust isn't a bad idea. I'm not saying the exhaust doesn't help. I'm just saying money is better spent elsewhere. Why spend $400 for a header, 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust, hi-flow cat and a brand name muffler just to pick up a few lousy horsepower and make a lot more noise? On some cars you can pick up more. I've only spent probably $200 total on my exhaust, and I've picked up a little little gain. I'm talking header and exhaust though. Do it yourself is the best. I do agree that some cars just aren't worth it, but sometimes you have to make due with what you have. I would rather have a better platform for building, but the Celica is all I have to work with for now. A few hp can be up to 15hp total or more if you get the right equipment on the right motor. I seen on Speedvision, a Viper that picked up a ton just from a cat back. I tend to stick with the idea that older cars weren't build as well. But the fact is, newer cars have more emissions to ditch. I don't know which would pick up more, but it just depends on the engine. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Feb 4, 2006 - 1:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
QUOTE(zombie @ Feb 3, 2006 - 12:55 PM) [snapback]388547[/snapback] QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 7:37 PM) [snapback]388329[/snapback] buy a header for a 1.8L 93-97 Corolla and have it installed. I did. It made a big difference with the responce and feel of the 7a. Best bang for the $$ IMO. can u explain more to me? thx sure. Buy one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94-95-97...034721131QQrdZ1 and read this http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29058 and http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29348 -------------------- |
Feb 5, 2006 - 2:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
[quote name='Batman722' date='Feb 3, 2006 - 10:36 PM' post='388784']
[quote name='zombie' post='388547' date='Feb 3, 2006 - 12:55 PM'] [quote name='Batman722' post='388329' date='Feb 2, 2006 - 7:37 PM'] buy a header for a 1.8L 93-97 Corolla and have it installed. I did. It made a big difference with the responce and feel of the 7a. Best bang for the $$ IMO. [/quote] sure. Buy one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94-95-97...034721131QQrdZ1 is it easy installing? and what kind of exhaust will u suggest? |
Feb 10, 2006 - 1:38 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
any help?
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Feb 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 18, '04 From Silverdale, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Like the other posts in here it is an easy install if you can weld pipe or if you just take it to a muffler shop. The bottom end is at the wrong angle (right for the corolla) and about 4 to 6 inches from the cat. Also if you have a 96 or newer ST you will have to put the rear O2 sensor in. I am running without one and no codes have popped yet.
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Feb 10, 2006 - 5:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Who cares about horsepower? Strip the **** outta that baby! It's an ST, so if you can get it under 2200 pounds you'll have lots of fun.
I will worship anyone who can strip a 6th gen down to 2000lbs and still have it fuctional and look normal from the outside. If I had a spare celica laying around I would do it. |
Feb 10, 2006 - 10:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(95ST @ Feb 4, 2006 - 2:12 AM) [snapback]388700[/snapback] bolt in a small block V8 great power I was drinking a soda and spit it out laughing when i read your response! Remember the guy with the 5th gen celica called frakenstien(supra headlights) that was swapping the v8 with rear drive into his celica on car domain? I posted it here a few times. I think he found out the hard way! This is his quote: Alright boys and girls this is where it gets sick.... the newest plan is to put a 302 5.0 litre engine out of a mustang(cough yes thats V8 short block) and using the drive train tranny and everything to convert over to rear wheel drive...not to mention either going turbo or supercharger...this beast will be insane and yes it does sound impossible...but i have a crew that can help me make it happen...just imagine a celica...with a v8 dear lord...it has to be illegal SO tell me what ya think ... Heres the link to his dream: frakenstienEngine work This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 10, 2006 - 10:59 PM |
Feb 13, 2006 - 4:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
so what should i say to the muffler shop after i buy the header?
juz ask them to convert it? thx for help |
Feb 13, 2006 - 4:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 20, '04 From oc, california Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
zombie, I can get you your 150hp real fast. All you need is a 50 shot of nitros. 350-500 bucks
dont go crazy with it and blow your motor. just use it to race hondas |
Feb 13, 2006 - 10:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 10, 2006 - 5:59 PM) [snapback]391930[/snapback] Who cares about horsepower? Strip the **** outta that baby! It's an ST, so if you can get it under 2200 pounds you'll have lots of fun. I will worship anyone who can strip a 6th gen down to 2000lbs and still have it fuctional and look normal from the outside. If I had a spare celica laying around I would do it. stripped 96' ST |
Feb 13, 2006 - 11:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 23, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 10, 2006 - 3:59 PM) [snapback]391930[/snapback] Who cares about horsepower? Strip the **** outta that baby! It's an ST, so if you can get it under 2200 pounds you'll have lots of fun. I will worship anyone who can strip a 6th gen down to 2000lbs and still have it fuctional and look normal from the outside. If I had a spare celica laying around I would do it. exactly, when you only have around 100hp, weight reduction can make a significant difference. 2000 lbs is pushing it but i think it could be done (audio system and all interior panels/carpet removed, all seats and seat belt assemblies removed with light driver seat, spare and tools removed, remove sound damper off of frame, light wheels/hood/fenders, cf hatch with lexan panel, AC removed, airbags removed with new steering wheel, and other little details) i dont even know if that would get down to 2000. wouldnt look pretty on the inside, but would be fun to drive , well except for road noise, no music, hot as hell in the summer, probably too front heavy. This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 13, 2006 - 11:23 AM -------------------- I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. |
Feb 13, 2006 - 11:38 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
taken back we stripped more
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Feb 13, 2006 - 1:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 13, 2006 - 12:17 PM) [snapback]393064[/snapback] QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 10, 2006 - 3:59 PM) [snapback]391930[/snapback] Who cares about horsepower? Strip the **** outta that baby! It's an ST, so if you can get it under 2200 pounds you'll have lots of fun. I will worship anyone who can strip a 6th gen down to 2000lbs and still have it fuctional and look normal from the outside. If I had a spare celica laying around I would do it. exactly, when you only have around 100hp, weight reduction can make a significant difference. 2000 lbs is pushing it but i think it could be done (audio system and all interior panels/carpet removed, all seats and seat belt assemblies removed with light driver seat, spare and tools removed, remove sound damper off of frame, light wheels/hood/fenders, cf hatch with lexan panel, AC removed, airbags removed with new steering wheel, and other little details) i dont even know if that would get down to 2000. wouldnt look pretty on the inside, but would be fun to drive , well except for road noise, no music, hot as hell in the summer, probably too front heavy. Yep, I definitely think it's possible. Then you'd effectively have the power to weight ratio of a lotus elise... and you'd have a toyota motor, too... ironic. |
Feb 13, 2006 - 2:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '06 From Lima, ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the 6th gen st is the lightest car toyota ever made right, and i heard from some1 that it only weighs 2300 lbs stock
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Feb 13, 2006 - 2:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 23, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 13, 2006 - 11:51 AM) [snapback]393108[/snapback] QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 13, 2006 - 12:17 PM) [snapback]393064[/snapback] QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Feb 10, 2006 - 3:59 PM) [snapback]391930[/snapback] Who cares about horsepower? Strip the **** outta that baby! It's an ST, so if you can get it under 2200 pounds you'll have lots of fun. I will worship anyone who can strip a 6th gen down to 2000lbs and still have it fuctional and look normal from the outside. If I had a spare celica laying around I would do it. exactly, when you only have around 100hp, weight reduction can make a significant difference. 2000 lbs is pushing it but i think it could be done (audio system and all interior panels/carpet removed, all seats and seat belt assemblies removed with light driver seat, spare and tools removed, remove sound damper off of frame, light wheels/hood/fenders, cf hatch with lexan panel, AC removed, airbags removed with new steering wheel, and other little details) i dont even know if that would get down to 2000. wouldnt look pretty on the inside, but would be fun to drive , well except for road noise, no music, hot as hell in the summer, probably too front heavy. Yep, I definitely think it's possible. Then you'd effectively have the power to weight ratio of a lotus elise... and you'd have a toyota motor, too... ironic. not quite that of an elise. they have 190hp and are 1984lbs. but it would be pretty quick for daily driving, thats for sure. QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 13, 2006 - 12:07 PM) [snapback]393112[/snapback] the 6th gen st is the lightest car toyota ever made right, and i heard from some1 that it only weighs 2300 lbs stock actually i think its more around 2415 for the st. and i know for one, the paseo is lighter. -------------------- I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. |
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