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post Feb 14, 2006 - 11:12 PM
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what model number or whatever is your injen intake, I'm having a hard time finding one. But yeah, i'm still a little confused, ebay one says it won't suck in hot air but does it still suck in hot air? And what makes the injen one so much more betters? I'm sorry guys, i'm a real noob
post Feb 14, 2006 - 11:25 PM
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lol sall good, the injen one was specifically design and they dont screw around when it comes to quality, the ebay ones are just pipes and filters haha injen makes theres perfect from the angles and bends and filters, my ebay cai sucked in hot air and my short ram was just for looks, i got mine off manny so idk where to get em online, i kno on the website they show u everything but say find a dealer near u lol, ebay has em, there usually silver mine was painted, there not cheap but there completly worth it


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post Feb 14, 2006 - 11:53 PM
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Ya my injen intake is loud. i mean ya i have cat-back exhaust with it. But people tell me they hear more intake then exhaust when im getting on it. I like it. Sounds better then some ive heard around here in my town. But its your decision.

Click on this and search for your year of celica. And it you will have your price.

http://www.toyotaworld.com/injen/index.htm

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post Feb 15, 2006 - 11:37 AM
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Celica GT Only w/Heat Shield 1994-99 212.50 250.00
IS2040R Celica GT Only w/Heat Shield 1994-99 221.00 260.00
IS2040B Celica GT Only w/Heat Shield 1994-99 221.00 260.00


Ouch, 221 dollars!!! Well I guess what i am really wondering now is, are the ebay ones bad for your engine since they suck hot air in??? Cuz yah, 12 dollars vs 221 dollars is crazy!!!
post Feb 15, 2006 - 6:55 PM
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hot air isn't bad. your car just goes a lil faster with cold air. and the injen intake isn't even a cai.

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post Feb 15, 2006 - 7:10 PM
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ahh how many pointless intake threads are there gonna be?
anyways, my opinion on SRI vs CAI is neither! CAI is cold air yes but its also longer in the throttle response...SRI is a quicker response yet you do get a mixture of hot and cold air depending if you remove the stock bottom box to allow more air to flow thru the fender. now ive done all these setups even had a injen and my opinion is keep the stock setup minus the stock box and drop in a k&n filter. Its what I call a medium cai setup, medium throttle response and sucks in cold air thru the fender and it keeps car looking stock for us "smog polluting states". the only difference between the stock look vs the injen is the price and if cone filters are better than drop-ins. yes injens are carb legal. choice is yours.
$30-60 for honda cai with k&n filter
$50-150 for injen
or $30-40 for k&n drop-in filter

regardless, you need to remove stock bottom box that restricts more air. i dare anyone to try my setup and tell me they prefer the others.


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post Feb 15, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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i have to agree with all the others injen is the best hands down.


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post Feb 15, 2006 - 7:58 PM
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go to advanced auto parts mine sells injen intakes, i dont have one but i think that they do, you know buying those ebay intakes is like hooking up with a fat chick when your drunk, we all do it but we dont like to admit it
post Feb 15, 2006 - 8:03 PM
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my intake is stock now. i may end up getting a k&n drop-in. what do you mean when you say "remove the stock bottom box"?


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post Feb 15, 2006 - 8:59 PM
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QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:55 PM) [snapback]394561[/snapback]

and the injen intake isn't even a cai.


are u meanign that since its not cold air its not worth it?? idk how u put that and not ttrying to start a war haha but if thats what u meant then it doesnt have to be cold air to be good, but all im saying is my injen was the best one i tried, again didnt kno how u were stating it lol


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post Feb 15, 2006 - 9:49 PM
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QUOTE(TheStreetzKing @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5:59 PM) [snapback]394632[/snapback]

QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:55 PM) [snapback]394561[/snapback]

and the injen intake isn't even a cai.


are u meanign that since its not cold air its not worth it?? idk how u put that and not ttrying to start a war haha but if thats what u meant then it doesnt have to be cold air to be good, but all im saying is my injen was the best one i tried, again didnt kno how u were stating it lol


haha, not trying to start a war. i never said injen wasn't any good. i'm sure its worth every penny, but this guy doesn't exactly have enough pennies. all i'm saying is he can get a pretty good modified accord cai for a lot less.


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 12:37 AM
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If you are really looking at an injen intake, this is is selling one for about 1/2 the price new....of course it is used...

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33871

p.s. I still think you should get a CAI, it is better all around for not sucking hot air/sounding really annoying...

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post Feb 16, 2006 - 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(Alchemist_57 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 7:03 PM) [snapback]394583[/snapback]

my intake is stock now. i may end up getting a k&n drop-in. what do you mean when you say "remove the stock bottom box"?


there is a bottom box to the intake that is inside the fender. it prevents more of the free airflow. i think it's supposed to be a sort of sound resonator but it doesn't really do anything.

I agree about the stock setup with the K&N. I had my CAI and while I do think it was better on the highway, just driving in town I prefer the quieter stock one, and without that bottom box I think it's a lot better throttle feel. Still using a generic air filter and still like it.


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 1:28 AM
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I have a weapon r dragon intake I had 2 choices with this one or an injen one, I picked this on because it was cheaper $99 compared to $235 for an injen at a local performance shop and I read all good reviews about it and saw dynos on it comparing against other brands, so far I'm having no problems




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post Feb 16, 2006 - 6:32 AM
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Hello everybody i'm new here but I would like to give my .02 about intakes from a engineering prespective.. bare with me

The popular belief is that CAI performs better than SRI is because CAI suck in colder air but infact the difference in IAT are negligible. The advantage of the CAI lies in fluid dynamics. The best intake maximize both air flow velocity (under engine vacumm) and volumetric efficiency (cylinder filling).. that is done using the correct lenghts and cross sectional diameter of piping for a particular engine. For example a tube with a smaller cross sectional area would maximize air flow and volumetric efficency at lower RPMs but would cut out and starve the engine of air at higher RPMs. A larger tube would sacrafice air flow velocity at lower RPMs but maximize volumetric efficency at high RPMs. A longer tube would create a pressure differential meaning faster intake air velocity but you would always run the risk of maxing out the volumetric efficency at higher RPMs.
Companies like AEM understand this and employ different piping diameters in their CAIs, for example the Intergra LS run 2.5", GSR run 2.75" and Type-R runs 3" due to their difference in redline and volumetric efficiency ranges compared to the rev band. Also if you notice their dyno graphs most of their gain lie in the mid RPM range, otherwise the dyno graphs would look like carbon copies of running a much cheaper SRI.

Most of the people who knows me know what a big JDM whore I am.. I guess its the new fad. but back to intake dynamics.. ever notice how just about every CAI manufacturer out there are american companies? AEM, Injen, Weapon R, etc. JDM is all about individual throttle body w/ velocity stacks, weird shaped CF intakes, and ARC induction boxes, I guess they're not as worried about "sucking in warm air from under the hood" as we are (no offense/ not directed to anybody here, I am just trying to put down the popular belief). Have anybody ever seen the weird shaped Carbon Fiber J's racing intake on hondas? believe it or not it's not just pretty looking, it's functional! The weird shape is in fact a taper tube design that tapers in from 3.5" at filter to 2.75" at the TB, volumetric efficiency graphs shows that a smooth taper design generates a better flow velocity than a constant diameter and generates more low and midrange power when compared to a traditional SRI, and since it's not a long tube, it would not max out at high RPM's like traditional CAIs. The Japanese calls these types of tapered intakes Tsuchinoko chambers. Also since the walls are made from composite it does not conduct as much heat as metal walled intake tubes we are all used to seeing, smart huh?

I would go on but I think everyone would be too bored out of their minds by now wink.gif
post Feb 16, 2006 - 3:03 PM
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Thanks, but that really didn't help me much. I think I might just got with the Short air intake or the K&N filter. Anyone in Oahu wanna help me out?
post Feb 18, 2006 - 2:45 PM
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i order my injen intake i'll leave my comment about it. i just have an ebay one and it sucks kindasad.gif


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 9:10 PM
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QUOTE(TrdPnoy @ Feb 16, 2006 - 6:28 AM) [snapback]394806[/snapback]

I have a weapon r dragon intake I had 2 choices with this one or an injen one, I picked this on because it was cheaper $99 compared to $235 for an injen at a local performance shop and I read all good reviews about it and saw dynos on it comparing against other brands, so far I'm having no problems




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How loud is the weapon R?
post Feb 19, 2006 - 1:04 AM
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It's pretty loud
post Feb 19, 2006 - 4:07 AM
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i heard weapon r's aren't good


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