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post Feb 23, 2006 - 9:22 PM
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Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?
post Feb 24, 2006 - 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 8:22 PM) [snapback]398667[/snapback]

Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?


well instead of a piggy back i would go stand alone dont get me wrong i use to have the emanage and worked great but i didnt use it to its full potentional just my 2 cents


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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 9:22 PM) [snapback]398667[/snapback]

Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?

IMO the shaft drive system is the hardest part of it.
once you have that figured out, its all about fuel and tuning from there.


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post Feb 24, 2006 - 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Predator @ Feb 24, 2006 - 12:03 AM) [snapback]398596[/snapback]

S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay

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hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into
a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment.


I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

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post Feb 24, 2006 - 2:04 PM
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i sold my korg triton keyboard for 1,500 to help fund my swap smile.gif


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post Feb 24, 2006 - 2:19 PM
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i sold my old turbo kit my guaitars and used 2 years worth of taxs returns to finish my motor project


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post Feb 24, 2006 - 6:46 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 24, 2006 - 4:35 PM) [snapback]399000[/snapback]

QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 9:22 PM) [snapback]398667[/snapback]

Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?

IMO the shaft drive system is the hardest part of it.
once you have that figured out, its all about fuel and tuning from there.

I hope they can get me a kit. Supposely its tuned to run good out of the box. We all have heard that before. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 24, 2006 - 4:38 PM) [snapback]399006[/snapback]

QUOTE(Predator @ Feb 24, 2006 - 12:03 AM) [snapback]398596[/snapback]

S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay

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hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into
a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment.


I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.



QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 24, 2006 - 7:04 PM) [snapback]399086[/snapback]

i sold my korg triton keyboard for 1,500 to help fund my swap smile.gif



QUOTE(nik @ Feb 24, 2006 - 7:19 PM) [snapback]399096[/snapback]

i sold my old turbo kit my guaitars and used 2 years worth of taxs returns to finish my motor project

Yay for the musicians. Its funny how we sacrafice for our cars. i haved broke for years throwing money into my vehicles!
post Feb 24, 2006 - 7:34 PM
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QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 24, 2006 - 4:38 PM) [snapback]399006[/snapback]

I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P


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post Feb 24, 2006 - 8:09 PM
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i met a guy who had the rip kit on his eclipse. got to talk to him for a while and he gave me the truth about the quality of the kit. he said the tuning sucks ballls, and since its their black box, there is nothing you can do to fix it. in his opinion, they should just add an emanage into the kit. he also said that their "ripp BOV" looks like something a 10yr old kid made at his first day in a machine shop.

before i swaped, i seriously considered the ripp kit... here is the conclustion i came to....
3400 is about what i ended up spending spent on my swap. now you could say that going with a charger would be better or worse, but i think what people forget is that, a swap will do 200+hp at the wheels BONE STOCK, with plenty more room for upgrades. while a charger, might give you similar results, but youll be doing all you an with no room to grow.

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post Feb 25, 2006 - 3:15 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 24, 2006 - 5:34 PM) [snapback]399234[/snapback]

QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 24, 2006 - 4:38 PM) [snapback]399006[/snapback]

I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P


Haha, haven't heard that before.... wink.gif

Theres actually much more to being a good drummer than most people think. Lately i've spent 2-3 hours a day practicing because i'm studying professionally with a jazz/latin instructor. I'm a little broke because of it....but I do have gear that I'm selling to help fund a swap and other car goodies. wink.gif

Anyway, back on topic. Madmods, the RIPP kit gonna happen??


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post Feb 25, 2006 - 3:28 AM
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i totally agree. a great drumer, and a great vocalist MAKE the band/song. if you have that, you can stick average bass and guitar players in there and most people will never be able to tell.


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post Feb 25, 2006 - 4:00 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 25, 2006 - 1:09 AM) [snapback]399246[/snapback]

i met a guy who had the rip kit on his eclipse. got to talk to him for a while and he gave me the truth about the quality of the kit. he said the tuning sucks ballls, and since its their black box, there is nothing you can do to fix it. in his opinion, they should just add an emanage into the kit. he also said that their "ripp BOV" looks like something a 10yr old kid made at his first day in a machine shop.

before i swaped, i seriously considered the ripp kit... here is the conclustion i came to....
3400 is about what i ended up spending spent on my swap. now you could say that going with a charger would be better or worse, but i think what people forget is that, a swap will do 200+hp at the wheels BONE STOCK, with plenty more room for upgrades. while a charger, might give you similar results, but youll be doing all you an with no room to grow.


Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap? How much you got into your motor? i seriously was going to do the swap. I wanted to buy the gt4 rascara was selling. The smog problem is stopping me. The state does the smog out here. I can't bribe an independent garage like when I lived in California. They put you into a little glass room, hook up something to your obd/obd2 and run your car on the rollers and have some sniffer on the exhaust. Then they move it,
to another spot, check for erg and test your gas cap. If I swap, it means different obd. Thats where Im screwed. Then I was going to turbo the 5sfe, been buying parts, but decided on the Ripps assuming I can
get one for under 3500. I refuse to pay 5 gs for one. I beleive playr said the difference between the different stages are different sizes of pulleys for more horsepower.
QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 25, 2006 - 8:15 AM) [snapback]399420[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 24, 2006 - 5:34 PM) [snapback]399234[/snapback]

QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Feb 24, 2006 - 4:38 PM) [snapback]399006[/snapback]

I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P


Haha, haven't heard that before.... wink.gif

Theres actually much more to being a good drummer than most people think. Lately i've spent 2-3 hours a day practicing because i'm studying professionally with a jazz/latin instructor. I'm a little broke because of it....but I do have gear that I'm selling to help fund a swap and other car goodies. wink.gif

Anyway, back on topic. Madmods, the RIPP kit gonna happen??


I'm waiting for them to get back to me. From what I understand at the moment, there are the custom fab pieces for the camry laying around their shop. The camry kit sold for 3400. It was discontuined. I have 3 gs saved now. Other people got quoted 5 something for them to make the 5sfe kit. Im not going to pay that. I'll turbo the 5 first before handing out that kind of money.

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I'd love to finally see a supercharged 5SFE done, or turbo a totally built 5SFE with a reworked head, metal headgasket, forged internals, and standalone.

Either way you'll have an exciting project on your hands.


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post Feb 25, 2006 - 5:23 AM
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Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap?



honesly, i lost track of exact costs a long time ago. so, i cant give you a specific number. but all i know is that i had 4grand in my hand the day i bought my clip, and at the end of the swap, all that was gone. normally if you do your own work and have a GT, you should have no problems staying within this budget.

just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 25, 2006 - 10:23 AM) [snapback]399455[/snapback]

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Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap?



honesly, i lost track of exact costs a long time ago. so, i cant give you a specific number. but all i know is that i had 4grand in my hand the day i bought my clip, and at the end of the swap, all that was gone. normally if you do your own work and have a GT, you should have no problems staying within this budget.

just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.

I gotta start robbing banks again wink.gif
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go for it madmods


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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 25, 2006 - 10:23 AM) [snapback]399455[/snapback]

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Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap?


just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.

you are not kidding on this one. the little things on my 5sfte project have definitely been adding up. big time.
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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 25, 2006 - 1:00 AM) [snapback]399441[/snapback]

I'm waiting for them to get back to me. From what I understand at the moment, there are the custom fab pieces for the camry laying around their shop. The camry kit sold for 3400. It was discontuined. I have 3 gs saved now. Other people got quoted 5 something for them to make the 5sfe kit. Im not going to pay that. I'll turbo the 5 first before handing out that kind of money.



if you are getting that from the link of the thread i posted, i think you read it wrong. They wanted 5 people to put down a $1000 deposit to start up the program, a total of $5000. $1000 up front from each person, then the rest, $2400, after it is delivered. Making the final total $3400 for each kit. I would never consider paying $5K for just one kit!


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post Feb 26, 2006 - 10:44 AM
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Just curious, how hard it would be to convert this to work on the celica? Please let out your ideals because the auction ends soon. Price is too good to pass up.
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post Feb 26, 2006 - 11:50 AM
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I think that would all lie upon what the driveshaft length was on that kit. If you could physically make it fit, and then talk to RIPP about getting a "blackbox" for the 5SFE motor, you could likely make it work pretty well. However you could closely replicate their tuning using a BTM for the timing, using the fuel pressure regulator that comes with it, and an S-AFC II for the fuel control. The components that are listed in that kit on Ebay are very similar to what came with the 5SFE kit.

Of course your best bet would still be to track down a 5SFE kit from RIPP themselves and make it a bolt-on deal......however I would bet some money that as long as that driveshaft isnt too short to go the length of the motor and you found the right size drive belt, you could make that kit fit with the help of a local machine shop. wink.gif

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