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Does the 3SGTE engine pulll G forces... I read somewher sometime that only 3 toyota engines pull over 1G stock..and i was wondering if the 3s was one of them.

Bigal

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Bigal

Pull G's? What exactly do you mean by that? I've driven cars with 3SGTEs, but I don't think I pulled any G's. Do you mean accelearation that puts you back in your seat that equals greater than 1G? Or is that a skid pad rating thing? I've pulled 6 G's in airplanes before, but that's a little different.

I think he's wondering how many G's can the engine handle without having any oil issues.

mine pulled some Gs ... about 3-4 off them were pulled out of my pocket just to get this damn thing running

This post has been edited by lagos: May 5, 2006 - 12:33 AM

LOL lagos i know that feeling...I meant like hard acceleration if it equalled 1G or more.

Bigal

PS 6G's in an airplane must be pretty nutz.

id guess if thats true about the 3 stock engines that can pull more than 1g force, id guess 3sgte, 2jzgte, and 4agze

The 2ZZ-GE can withstand 1.0G without sucking air.

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by Gs he probably means "greater than the gravitational acceleration" which is 9.80665 m/s².

so if 1 mile = 1.609 kms, then ¼ mile = 402.25 meters.

and if d=ut+½at²

then 402.25m=½(9.8m/s²)t²
402.25/½(9.8)=t²
t²=82.09s
t=9.06s

therefore, the engine must be fast enough to pull a car to run at or under 9.06s in a quarter mile run.
(of course, the mass of the car would greatly impact the amount of Nm or hp of the engine, thus heavier car = more hp)

i luv translational physics

now, i wonder which toyotas run under 9.06s stock??

The way you state it - none. Except mabye in 1st/2nd gears with GREAT tires.

When talking about cornering - maybe more than 1G. Probably the 2zz, 1jz and 3rd gen 3s-gte (revised oil pan + pickup). I know somebody that blew 3 3s-fe motors by cornering and accellerating.

Watch that oil pressure gauge!!

-Charlie

Nice post!

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This post has been edited by snapshotgt: May 5, 2006 - 4:28 PM

i think he ment.... to go fast you have to spend 1g or more (aka 1,000$ or more) . he was trying to follow up to my joke about how 3-4Gs (3-4,000$) will get pulled out of your pocket if you want a fast celica.

theorically yes but..
our cars doesnt have an electric motor that can give same acceleretion all time..
we have different accelelerion at different rpm's
i belive that my car pulls higher that 1 G arround 5000-6000 rpm.
i always thinked of installing a g-meter in my car to test it once.

That assumes a uniform acceleration. I would guess that our cars have a better acceleration in lower speeds.

This is correct. It can be done - but its "gonna cost ya"

3rd Gen 3S-GTE has oil squirters in the block walls, one assumes to help prevent oil starvation....

obtaining g forces in a turn can be done with a ford festiva. A straight line is another story.

why worry about it, a 6th gen is really not going to pull a lateral g. no way, the suspension was never made for it.

A lateral g? A 6th gen with an upgraded suspension and wide tires could easily pull a lateral g. We are talking about the in-line force applied from torque - not a lateral g.