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post Jun 30, 2003 - 9:33 AM
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ok every one is saying 3sgte that enging is not going to hold up to a ferrari.. you best be is a V6 and get it to push out close to 700 HP... the get a better suspenson the we already have... then you going to have to a retuned transmission to handle the power and use it the right way...


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post Jun 30, 2003 - 5:52 PM
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Ok guys...
look at it this way the 360 modena (I LOVE that car) is a 3.6 L V8 with 400 HP
and the 3sgte is a 2.0 L i4 with 250-255 HP, now the ferrari is only only 300 pounds heavier than the 6g but if ur going to mod the car u can get a 6gen under 2200 lb.
GT2GT4 - man just reading those parts made me drool...imagine all that under the hood of ur average 6g celi gt haha. Oh yeah and the Modena costs $152,000 USD, and what GT2GT4 is suggesting would cost about $55 000 including the car and u could still spend about 5 grand on details like suspension and gearing. so with about 60 grand u could have an 800 HP (yes 800, with the parts listed and with mild tuning u should have no trouble achieving that, Port everything u can and this turns into 800 HP at the wheels) AWD Beast that could take on most ne car. if u really want to go and race a ferrari like a week from now get a 3sgte get the biggest turbo u can, strip the interior and get the biggest nitrous shot u can (I personaly dislike that method, like the man said its ricey) and u should be able to keep up with it.
Ferraris are sweet but you gotta respect our celi. given enough money ne thing is possible however and you could make ne car that fast. But few would have the looks that that rival the top exotics like ferraris. by the way an 800 whp celi that weighs around 2200 lb would run mid to low 8's and the 360 modena runs 12.8 on the quarter. Plus ur car would handle almost as well so u could win no matter what the race.
post Jun 30, 2003 - 7:07 PM
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pretty much the 360 is the looker of the ferrari bunch, not as performance geared as the rest, but they concintrated on style, which they did a faboulus job on it. if you have a real good driver in the celica and a really poor driver in the 360, then a celica can already out perform it, i remember spedtoe talking about an oldschool VW beating a diablo at one of the solo events he went to.


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post Jun 30, 2003 - 9:35 PM
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ya i remember that guy in the diablo was a horrible driver

i think that Geo Metros were getting better times in the autocross event than the diablo


and in response to swifys post

i already put suspension in there

i would estimate 48,000 with all those parts installed in your car. tuned to the highest capability and some new gears for the awd tranny. you could have 800hp easily.

post Jun 30, 2003 - 9:51 PM
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Thanks yal, After seeing how much some of that equipment cost I THINK no I DO BELIEVE that the ferrari I was going to show off with or against it can just stay away from me. I think I will just admire the man from a distance.

Because unfortunately I have about 5000 dollars that I had recently bet somebody I could out perform a Celica GTS and a Corvette 50th anniversity edition. My car amazingly did it but that was only thinks to the handling and my new tires. All of the racing was on the track in the rain undredibly.

But thanks for the advice on the parts. I don't think I want to be doing all of that to my car.
post Jun 30, 2003 - 9:57 PM
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Liqer thats a good story smile.gif
But do you actually think you could beat a ferrari with $5,000?
post Jul 1, 2003 - 2:55 AM
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It is possible.
post Jul 1, 2003 - 3:02 AM
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QUOTE (Swifty @ Jun 30, 2003 - 3:06 PM)
Ok guys...
look at it this way the 360 modena (I LOVE that car) is a 3.6 L V8 with 400 HP
and the 3sgte is a 2.0 L i4 with 250-255 HP, now the ferrari is only only 300 pounds heavier than the 6g but if ur going to mod the car u can get a 6gen under 2200 lb.

WTF...only 400hp?!
Look at it this way, since the 3S is only 255 stock it sure can be increased. 400HP is moderately achieveable. 500-600hp is what you want.
post Jul 1, 2003 - 11:59 AM
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To all of you who say its better to buy a Ferrari, I tell you this: bullcrap. A swapped in GT-Four engine and tranny with the upgrades Matt said (plus more if you want crazy 1000+ HP), you could kill the Ferrari. By the way, think about how much those over-hyped vehicles cost. The cost of the Celica just off the parts Matt gave you (and their are pleanty more) is only a piece of what the stock Ferrari costs. Think if you took ALL of the cash that it takes to buy a Ferrari and dropped it into the Celica, the Celica would be the greatest vehicle in the world. Celicas rule. Ferraris suck. End of discussion.
post Jul 1, 2003 - 12:12 PM
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bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif x INFERNO!!!!! CELICA RuleZ
post Jul 1, 2003 - 1:08 PM
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HAHAH! I love you guys mang..you guys are soo funny LOL.

Bottom Line: Money can make you fast.

For Instance.....you could have 35K to spend and have a 13B Rotory dropped into a Geo Metro....daynm wouldnt that be fast. But I think the point is the prestige and the outright stock performance of a Ferrari that gives that wow factor.......screw it im not going into a long article again.....CELICAS RULE.....especially 6G's.....end of discussion.

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post Jul 1, 2003 - 3:08 PM
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well i meant that its weird cuz he has like 4 posts and he doesnt ask what kind of swaps he can do or what kind of parts would be best for an engine upgrade

just jumps onto a ferrari


didnt me to hurt anyones feelings


by the way stipt

it took me about 1 1/2 hour to get that list.

that would be nice to have all that stuff though



edit: also about me feeling generous thing

that was supposed to be a joke. if you look at it thats quite a list

most people would be like yea good luck...do the swap...blah blah

sorry if i came off cocky...ass


why did you spend 1 1/2 hours to do all of that, you know that this guy isn't going to spend 50g
so why did you waste your time? you must have no life.

how do you expect to convert your celica to a gt-4 if you waste your time on stuff like this, I'm sure you've got alot of work to do

and as for calling stript an ass at the end of your post, your just stooping to his level... grow up


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post Jul 1, 2003 - 3:45 PM
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Hey, to all the people who are saying to just go out and buy a ferrari, what the hell? How do you think this car culture was developed? By trying new things, most of you idiots have forgotten that. I like what GT2GT4 is saying, let the man try it. If no one was trying new things then this hobby would be filled with all civics and integras, and nobody wants that. Sure, you can go out and buy a prestigous Ferrari, but why not try something new. Just when you think everything has been done, somebody needs to through together something different. I say do it, plus take it to shows and just wait till all the attention flies your way.
post Jul 1, 2003 - 8:03 PM
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You own, TunerHawk.
post Jul 2, 2003 - 1:33 AM
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you could do it easy, its called 50 psi... hehe
post Jul 2, 2003 - 4:28 AM
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GT2GT4 aka Igot5sfeTurbo is getting on my nerves....

-too much trash talk yo, dont' be saying that people need to do research

cause your still a ****n n00bie...

-talk **** before - talk **** now ..... damn sorry guys....
post Jul 2, 2003 - 5:01 AM
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QUOTE (zigy @ Jul 2, 2003 - 1:42 AM)
GT2GT4 aka Igot5sfeTurbo is getting on my nerves....

-too much trash talk yo, dont' be saying that people need to do research

cause your still a ****n n00bie...

-talk **** before - talk **** now ..... damn sorry guys....

well hmmm

how i am talking trash or sh*t about anyone??

i just suggested that he should do some research first instead of having everyone else do the work for him

i mean look at the list that i provided for him

if i was meaning to be a dick i would have just said do some research about your car and left it at that.


i dont know where you come off talking bad about me ....maybe i said something that really hurt his feelings in my post.. but it seems as though he hasnt said anything about it so obviously he isnt as upset as everyone else is.

and another question how am i a noobie???
post Jul 2, 2003 - 2:36 PM
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Can't we all just get along? biggrin.gif

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post Jul 2, 2003 - 6:56 PM
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Yeah, we can.
post Jul 3, 2003 - 1:04 AM
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well, I usually like to stay neutral, but if there's one person here that bothers me its gt2gt4 or Igotta5sfe turbo, whatever you call him.

to me, he seems like a wannabe, but he is not really a noob

the reason I call him a wannabe is because when he first came to celica.net he had some other dude's car on his sig!!! even though he apologized for it, I hardly believe a word he says!!!

lets look at some other facts.

he claims that he has the burien turbo kit, but it's his girlfriends car!!!

who would post 1500 posts on a forum about his girlfriends car?

then who would decide to spend at least another 5 grand to turn his g/f's car into a gt-4?

he claims to have bought the front and rear clips off of a gt-4 from jarco.

so he has basically dumped probably 8 grand into a car that isn't even his!!! WTF!!

and I'm just questionable about the eclipse he says is his in his sig

I love this site, and its easy as hell to get along with almost everyone, but he just gets under my skin

sorry to vent, and sorry if I'm being an ass


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