ever seen this before?, Apex'i Front Strut Bar |
ever seen this before?, Apex'i Front Strut Bar |
Jun 22, 2006 - 9:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
i saw it online, it resembles closely to that of a Cusco strut bar
anyway, i was in absolute awe when i saw it.. thinking "whoa, never seen this before on a 6th gen" it's not in the Parts Database, so i'm guessing it is now discontinued? or maybe atleast it's very rare. here are some pics: (u can never get sick of pics..) well, i just got it in earlier today, and because i haven't worked for 2 weeks straight due to an injury on my right leg, i had nothing else to do and i just HAD to install it! you know how it is when you get a part you've been waiting to get... hehe here it is installed: unfortunately, the power steering reservoir is sort of in the way and now it's tilting slightly to the inside when the bar is in place.. i'm guessing it's located elsewhere on a gt-four. but let's just hope that the bar does it's job and doesn't push the reservoir any further during a hard turn or else i'll have a big problem. also, since the bar is meant for an st205, it kinda bridges upward.. which makes the stock hood hard to close. but that's okay.... for now -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Jun 22, 2006 - 9:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
its hinged at either end which means the bar will twist and flex with the car and NOT keep the body rigid.
you can make your own bar with a little work and a few tools that will actually stiffen things and costs alot less. im making one soon for my prizm, i'll make a little thread when i'm done. the stock bar is 3 point which is ALOT better than any 2 point bar. the shorter the bar spans the less it'll flex and the thinner and lighter the material can be. This post has been edited by Bitter: Jun 22, 2006 - 9:20 PM -------------------- |
Jun 22, 2006 - 11:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
i just got back from a quick test drive..
the car feels a lot more solid during turns than the stock bar did. with the stock bar, the car felt like the front chassis was still flexing during a hard turn which slows the car down but with this, it felt more rigid and solid which made turning quicker and more responsive. and yes, the bar is hinged but it isn't hinged loosely. cuz then, what is the point in adding a strut bar? i believe they're hinged for easier installation and can be adjusted to spread to really tighten the gap between the struts.. a fully closed 3-point strut bar like TRD, JSpeed and C-ONE truly is better than any 2-point. however, the stock strut bar only has 2 members going diagonally from the firewall. with that said, the stock strut bar allows for better bracing during linear hard braking but the 2-point bar allows for better bracing while actually doing the turn. but that's just my opinion.. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Jun 23, 2006 - 2:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
is there a possibel way to combine the stock sway bar and a straight bar making a full 3pt?
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Jun 23, 2006 - 2:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(jdg371 @ Jun 23, 2006 - 2:46 PM) [snapback]448145[/snapback] is there a possibel way to combine the stock sway bar and a straight bar making a full 3pt? its really easy, get a peice of pipe bent and welded to the stock bar. -------------------- |
Jun 23, 2006 - 6:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(azian_advanced @ Jun 22, 2006 - 9:01 PM) [snapback]447853[/snapback] unfortunately, the power steering reservoir is sort of in the way and now it's tilting slightly to the inside when the bar is in place.. i'm guessing it's located elsewhere on a gt-four. but let's just hope that the bar does it's job and doesn't push the reservoir any further during a hard turn or else i'll have a big problem. I find this quite worrying. Should you really be modding cars if you think that the brake fluid resevoir is where the power steering fluid goes? PAS Fluid Reservoir Brake Fluid Reservoir Besides, forcing the brake reservoir over to one side means that it won't seat properly and that means a huge risk of leaks and even air getting into the system. That brace is obviously not meant to fiit your car. Simply bending (critical) parts out of the way is not the ideal solution to making things fit. Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
Jun 23, 2006 - 7:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
OMG! ^ the above post kills me lol
check your halogen fluid lately??? lol easy mistake....others have made worse confusions (mostly me lol) This post has been edited by devilsden97: Jun 23, 2006 - 7:21 PM -------------------- Kawi Love |
Jun 23, 2006 - 11:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
woops... my bad. i didn't even read what it said on the plastic before making the assumption that it was the power steering reservoir.
thanks for clearing that up.. all i know is it's some kinda reservoir.. and Gary you're right, critical parts shouldn't be risked in order to make things fit.. so i think i'll put a couple washers beneath the strut bar to lift it a little? anybody want to make a suggestion to this? it's just touching it but not bent over completely.. it's fine as it is now but if it flexes inwards by more than an inch, then maybe i'll have some problems.. but i truly doubt that'll happen. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Jun 23, 2006 - 11:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '06 From Plantation, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My car doesnt even have one of those bars Should I get one?
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Jun 23, 2006 - 11:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jun 24, 2006 - 12:40 AM) [snapback]448297[/snapback] My car doesnt even have one of those bars Should I get one? dude its because u have an ST lol Gt's came with a factory strut bar (as shown in the second picture under the A'pexi one) St's did not. You can find gt ones for cheap. -------------------- Kawi Love |
Jun 23, 2006 - 11:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '06 From Plantation, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Jun 23, 2006 - 11:45 PM) [snapback]448301[/snapback] QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jun 24, 2006 - 12:40 AM) [snapback]448297[/snapback] My car doesnt even have one of those bars Should I get one? dude its because u have an ST lol Gt's came with a factory strut bar (as shown in the second picture under the A'pexi one) St's did not. You can find gt ones for cheap. I know That's why im asking if I should get one lol. Like is it even worth it? -------------------- |
Jun 23, 2006 - 11:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Jun 23, 2006 - 11:45 PM) [snapback]448301[/snapback] Gt's came with a factory strut bar (as shown in the second picture under the A'pexi one) Not ALL GT(s) years came with braces -- i think 98-99 they stoped putting them on... ~snap -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
Current: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor |
Jun 23, 2006 - 11:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Jun 24, 2006 - 12:48 AM) [snapback]448303[/snapback] QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Jun 23, 2006 - 11:45 PM) [snapback]448301[/snapback] Gt's came with a factory strut bar (as shown in the second picture under the A'pexi one) Not ALL GT(s) years came with braces -- i think 98-99 they stoped putting them on... ~snap i stand corrected -------------------- Kawi Love |
Jun 24, 2006 - 12:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jun 23, 2006 - 11:40 PM) [snapback]448297[/snapback] My car doesnt even have one of those bars Should I get one? that depends on how you drive.. the more aggressive you drive, the more you can feel the difference... do you want my stock one? errr... first, do STs even have the two holes on the firewall for where the stock bar bolts to? This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Jun 24, 2006 - 12:33 AM -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Jun 24, 2006 - 11:21 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 20, '06 From deltona, fl Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes they do, tapped and everything. Theres just black cirlces on them
Steve -------------------- If Columbus was told, "use the search function," he would have learned that the World was flat.
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Jun 24, 2006 - 11:33 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '06 From Plantation, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah they have the holes for the front and rear bar.
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Jun 24, 2006 - 12:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 28, '05 From MB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
are you getting rid of your stock one cheap azn? I may take it from you, considering i'd jump on anything thats actually local for a change.
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Jun 25, 2006 - 8:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
^^ yeah sure.. it beats having to ship it out. especially for something that's large and isn't worth much $$$.
PM me an offer.. -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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