6G Celicas Forums

yeah unfortunately for other people like honda owners can buy a shell or even a carfor about $2,500-$4,500
the spend another 3 grand and will be hitting 12's in a quarter mile people arent really thinking about b series no more its the era of the k and well a stock k24 (tsx engine) in a eg bubble runs 12's and would be cheaper if not the same as uying a celica and doing the 3s swap. If you wana see it in action go to my myspace i got a video of a stock k24 running the 1/4 mile. Even though the 3s is a great engine and well you gotta love turbo i wanna consider other powerplants maybe the v6 that comes in th camry but yeah around here its gonna start being alittle more competetive with the new honda engine. But you should definately do the swap, i find it that that most people dont know what my car is other than its a toyota because i have a toyota symbol so heres a elemnt of surprise there especially if you do the swap

You know how many Hondas I've seen hit 12's, thousands. You know how many Celicas I have seen hit low 14's, only 3.

Hondas are nice. but, the bandwagon is not for me.

how long did it take you to save up? im going to start saving soon....got alot of bills

Aren't K-series swaps still ridiculously expensive? Last time I was reading up on them on Honda-Tech project threads they costed way more than a 3S-GTE swap. And EG Civics aren't exactly cheap either...everyone wants one.

Anyway, don't get too discouraged with your car...if you want it to be faster you can always turbo or swap. Even with just a 160-hp 4A-GE in my car it's a blast to drive. I don't race and the motor isn't a good choice for straight line drag racing, but the car is a dream to drive.

If you want speed, get a domestic or a swapped import.

My buddy spend 11k on his 99 z28 camaro, exhaust + headers & some other minor mods, and he's blowing doors off of anything imported around here.

Honestly, import speed is expensive if you want serious numbers or to be able to pull 13's or lower. Unless you get some gutted civic hatchback with a swap, be prepared to spend money or be generally 'slow' in terms of track times.

I've stuck it out long enough with my auto ST, the slowest of the slow. I don't believe a GT would make that much of a difference, the 6gc is a great car but without some serious cash being spent on it, it will always be slow. Advancing timing, intake, exhaust, weight reduction, all of this stuff is completely irrelevant when you're working off of an economical motor to begin with. The platform just sucks, I'm not dissing Toyota, I'm just dissing what they decided to put in their 'sports' cars in the late 90's.

The newer Celica's are no different, while the GT-S has 180hp, it lacks any amount of torque to take seriously. I've seen guys on newcelica.org spend thousands of dollars on super/turbo charging just to break in to the high 13's, it's almost not worth it at that point, unless you really love your car.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Jul 5, 2006 - 1:54 PM

id hate to tell you this... but your car is an automatic ST, thats why its so slow. buying a honda wont be much of an upgrade.

if you want to smoke everyone on a shoe string budget, then buy youself an awd DSM and a nice craftsman toolset to go along with it.

lol lagos u sure know how to make me laugh....DSM...i might as well get a neon.... i know its an auto but jeezus!! he beat me by like 3 cars! and it wasnt even an eighth of a mile!!!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Jul 5, 2006 - 1:54 PM

a DSM is the only car that will get you the most power for the money. i would rather roll around in one of those then a honda.

I agree with lagos, if I were to do it over again, i'd attempt to go the DSM route, 6 bolt swap, and pray to god nothing horrible happened.

Of course, more often than not, you hear horror stories about kids blowing up motors & such, but they're kids, that's what kids do.

when i got in my accident a while ago the guy that fixed my car offered to trade me str8 up with a eagle talon.... and i said hell no...(then again i was a dumbass back then in 2000)

Those talon's arent really that bad. The problem is, I don't see too many with a manual tranny, or with a decent amount of mileage on them (under 100k).

When I sell the celica, I'm gonna be looking for a 96+ Eclipse GS-T hard top with low mileage. It will be rare, but i'll find one, and I wouldn't mind paying a premium price for one either.

ohh..yes, yes they are....they are commonly known around here as "electrical nightmares"

dude, you have an AUTOMATIC and a ST....

those 2 words combined is a big no no for racing.

Matt i'll donate you a manual tranny for the cause

who wants to donate shift cables

This post has been edited by playr158: Jul 5, 2006 - 2:27 PM

If you want cheap speed buy a street bike. It doesnt really matter what car you drive, we could sit here all year and argue this car is better than that.

If the car you currently drive makes you happy, stick with it and start planning some serious mods. If not. Find a car that will make you happy.

You can make any car faster, but only the right car to you will make you happy.

i pretty much agree with everyone. for starters, ditch the auto tranny and learn to drive stick. a good driver in a manual st can take on an auto gt. plus its a lot more fun to drive. and save up some more for either a swap or turbo. i highly recommend that you not sell your car for a honda. talk about a major downgrade. your car is one of a kind and hondas are ubiquitous.


i totally agree. haha

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Jul 5, 2006 - 3:15 PM

Exactly. You can make any car fast, its not even worth discussing what cars are better. You buy yourself a cheap car and spend money to make it fast, or buy a more expensive car thats already fast and before you know it, you spent the same ammount of money and from either angle you come from you end up with the same result - a quick car.

Celicas aren't blazing fast from the factory, especially auto ST's. However with the right ammount of money and time invested, you can forget that you ever had any doubts about the Celica.

Its aaaaallllllll relative.

^^ basically the same point i was attempting to touch on.. he just said it better

unless its like a vtec prelude or something. those are cool!