3SGTE vs. SR20DET |
3SGTE vs. SR20DET |
Sep 13, 2006 - 6:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 21, '05 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, since winter is starting and I am not planing on doing anything to my celi cuz its a 1.8L Auto and its mainly a SoundQuality car now. Well now I am planing on saving up money for my next project, by next summer I'll probably have around 6-8G's to spend on it. So here are two choises that I have to make.
I wanna run the car all year round so it will be like my daily driver. I live in NY. 1) MR2 91-94 and swap 3SGTE into it. 2) 240SX 91-94 and swap SR20DET into it. Tell me what you think, i am pretty sure you will say to go with Toyota cuz of celica and all. Thank you -------------------- <<AKA THA RUSSIAN>>
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Sep 13, 2006 - 6:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mr2, 240s are everyone and that is coming from a guy who has a s14 with an rb25det
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Sep 13, 2006 - 6:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 2, '06 From Socal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
SR's have more aftermarket support.
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Sep 13, 2006 - 7:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 21, '05 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
After doing a lil research it looks like SR swap is way easier then 3S. Tell me what you think about that. Becuase this is going to be my first swap I want it to be as easy as possible. At first I was just planing on getting 240SX and buying an 180SX clip with SR20DET and then doing a complete swap (not doing the wiring myself because there is a dude that converts 240SX to 180SX for $99). And SR is cheaper too
This post has been edited by Niskyspy: Sep 13, 2006 - 7:52 PM -------------------- <<AKA THA RUSSIAN>>
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Sep 13, 2006 - 8:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Miata with a 302.
I know that's nto an option but it should be. This post has been edited by creamed_corn: Sep 13, 2006 - 8:40 PM |
Sep 13, 2006 - 8:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 21, '05 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 13, 2006 - 8:40 PM) [snapback]479459[/snapback] Miata with a 302. I know that's nto an option but it should be. Sorry, I dont like miatas (good cars though, handle really good but just not my taste) -------------------- <<AKA THA RUSSIAN>>
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dont get a clip, just get an engine set, i can get them for 1750 shipped from osaka
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 30, '03 From O-town, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
SR's are cheaper to get horsepower from. I haven't really ever seen a reliable MR2, either.
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '06 From louisville Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Niskyspy @ Sep 13, 2006 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]479427[/snapback] Well, since winter is starting and I am not planing on doing anything to my celi cuz its a 1.8L Auto and its mainly a SoundQuality car now. Well now I am planing on saving up money for my next project, by next summer I'll probably have around 6-8G's to spend on it. So here are two choises that I have to make. I wanna run the car all year round so it will be like my daily driver. I live in NY. 1) MR2 91-94 and swap 3SGTE into it. 2) 240SX 91-94 and swap SR20DET into it. Tell me what you think, i am pretty sure you will say to go with Toyota cuz of celica and all. Thank you Buy mine and have a showcar with a built 320whp+ motor!!! |
Sep 14, 2006 - 12:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 8, '06 From Irvine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Akimbo @ Sep 13, 2006 - 10:15 PM) [snapback]479484[/snapback] SR's are cheaper to get horsepower from. I haven't really ever seen a reliable MR2, either. Look at rickyB 350rwhp reliable engine, im on 400+rwhp reliable as well. I love the 3s if you look in the right places, but depending on your area the sr20 would be hazarderous to PD. But both are boost friendly, not as boost friendly as a 4g63 but still a very responsive motor. the reason a lot of the mr2s arnt reliable is becasue people throw on teeny tiny turbos (Ct26/ct20b/ct27) and boost 20psi on them. I havent had ANY extra problems with my mr2 than anything else, oil change, retoruqe headstuds once a year, timing belt every 60k, basic stuff |
Sep 14, 2006 - 1:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 18, '05 From BANNED Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(OrbitalGT95 @ Sep 13, 2006 - 6:27 PM) [snapback]479428[/snapback] mr2, 240s are everyone and that is coming from a guy who has a s14 with an rb25det haha Yes I have seen that thing.... nice.... so anyway...sr20s you can make more power but the reliability issue goes down. Oil pump always has the same problem then the motor blows up. 3sgte always makes power and its reliable. Sr20/240 you see it everywhere it used to be uncommon but everyone has one now there not cool anymore. you can make alot less power with an mr2 and run much better times because its obviously a mid engine. you see less mr2s than 240s.... there a completely differnt feel. clips are so cheep now its not fair.... under 2k now usualy for a sr20... Im leaning towards the mr2 only because I have one. But driving both I like the mr2 much better. -------------------- BANNED!
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Sep 14, 2006 - 10:19 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
im not sure if its true or not, but i remember people saying a besic bpu 3s swap in a celica was faster then a basic sr20 swap in a 240. a jdm swaped bpu mr2 would probably kill it since those run a mid 13sec with not much done to them.
we used to have this running joke at meets, because every nissan we ever saw was swaped. i kept trying to find one that DIDNT have an sr20 in it. took a while before i ran into one... lol so yeah, its a VERY common swap. another thing is, every time i see that motor in a car, it alwasy looks like a crappy, dirty motor that somehow makes power. ive yet to see one that was well done and well maintained. besides all the negatives, i do like the body style of the newer (95+ ?) 240s. thats probably the one i would get if i was planning a swap. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 14, 2006 - 10:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From Nebraska Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 14, 2006 - 10:19 AM) [snapback]479640[/snapback] i do like the body style of the newer (95+ ?) 240s. thats probably the one i would get if i was planning a swap. S14. 95-98. I prefer the S13, but its all personal taste. -------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Sep 14, 2006 - 8:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 5, '03 From South TX. Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
My friend has a Metallic white RHD 2000 S15 Silvia, man......that car is AMAZING!!!
2 of my friends have sr20 powered 240s, they look like crap, but they run low 13's.... This post has been edited by 95celgt: Sep 14, 2006 - 8:25 PM |
Sep 14, 2006 - 11:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(95celgt @ Sep 15, 2006 - 1:24 AM) [snapback]479854[/snapback] My friend has a Metallic white RHD 2000 S15 Silvia, man......that car is AMAZING!!! 2 of my friends have sr20 powered 240s, they look like crap, but they run low 13's.... well ur friend is a douch bag..j/k i want s15 -------------------- Now SR powered |
Sep 14, 2006 - 11:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From under your bed. Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Man... why don't you just buy a TURBO'd MR2. Don't those already come with the 3SGTE in it? Save you money on the swap unless you are going after ST205 3SGTE motor on that tranny.
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Sep 15, 2006 - 12:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From Aurora IL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mr2 swap is generally plug & play. it can be done in a solid days work.
SR20DET swaps can be done in a day, as well. although, the mr2 is a more interesting ride, at least, to me it is. sounds like two pretty even swaps to me. it's really up to what you want, a 240 or a turbo'd mr2. |
Sep 15, 2006 - 11:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
Oh? the whole time I thought MR2s have the 3SGTE inside...
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Sep 15, 2006 - 1:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
if you have a 3sgte and overnight parts from japan, it will decimate all.
QUOTE(tomazws @ Sep 15, 2006 - 11:53 AM) [snapback]480082[/snapback] Oh? the whole time I thought MR2s have the 3SGTE inside... turbo = 3sgte non-turbo = 5sfe -------------------- |
Sep 15, 2006 - 1:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From under your bed. Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Yeah, I'd rather have a MR2 instead. First off... lighter chassis. Second, ST205 is better than SpecR.
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