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Dose any body know if the 3SGTE Head will fit the 3SGE engine Block. I own both of these motors but for some Reason I prefer the 3SGE Block !!! and i forgot to try the head before I fitted the 3SGTE into my Celica :s could some one help thanks

Yes.

Are you 100% sure about this because I wanted to buy new pistons crank ect and just change the head when the block is complete so I have to be sure, do you have any info :s

This post has been edited by Alan: Sep 14, 2006 - 3:01 PM

Yes i'm sure. But if you still have doubts, go ahead and do some research yourself.

Gen 2 3SGE block doesnt have oilsquirters, gen 3+ blocks do.

If you use a gen 2 3SGE block 'just because' then there is something wrong with your head.

This would be a detrimental mod.

How so?

what are you planing to do????

I was thinking seriously of blue printing the block boring checking clearences ect and buying aftermarket pistons and a crank or astroker kit, so then at the end of the day I could just, take the head off the 3SGTE and put it on the 3SGE block, and for some reason I prefer the 3SGE block it looks more durable and I whant to use the sump of the 3SGE as it hold the gearbox better than the 3SGTE

What do You guys think Good idea?

Not a bad idea IMO.

Ok any plans for boost???
stroker kit =5s crank, 3s rods,87mm pistions, bored block...
You can do it your self or buy that kit from ATS racing in TX

No idea what so ever at the moment as i have to finish up my first project on the normal 3sgte but planning for big boost with the next project want to do things seriously like blue printing crank case polishing ceramic coat for the pistons and everything to race standards. I have never heard of ATS racing but i will check it out thanks a lot guys

3sge heads are sometimes put on 3sgte blocks because of the lift duration & cams which have increased airflow.

Really cool but my 3SGTE head is also gonna be modified thanks for the pointer though



What do you mean by detrimental mod ???

I mean if your 3sg head is already flowing better than a 3sgt head, it would be detrimental to performance to switch them. I'm talking stock for stock. Why not just put aftermarket 3sge camshafts in?

I dont think You understood what I said before I said I want to use the Block of the 3SGE and the Head of the 3SGTE. I wanted to know If the head fits exactly and If it is a good idea ???

Which gen 3SGE or 3SGTE block?

The 3rd gen 3SGE blocks suffer the same thin wall problems as the 3rd gen 3SGTE blocks (same castings), so the 2nd gen blocks are actually stronger. The rods and crank are the same for all generations of 3S motors, so there's no advantages there.

The 3rd gens do have a nicer lubrication system - better oil pan/baffles and relocated oil filter, but aftermarket parts can accomplish the same thing.

The 3SGE doesn't have the stock oil lines for the turbo to use, so you'll need to make some lines - though I personnally like tee'ing off the head better then the stock hard pipes. Much easier to remove.


Little confused by this comment. Both blocks are made from the same casting - physically no difference.

Nice one bro thanks the Blocks are both 3rd gen ,

As for the Sump the 3SGE sump has an aluminum flange which is part of the sumps cast unlike the 3SGTE of the MR2 . I think ill use the 3SGE block as my ony consern was the oil turbo pips, but I will not be needing them as I bought a Ball bearing turbo thanks for the help,ohh and another thing the diff. between the 2nd an the 3rd gen appart from the oil jets in the crank case are what? exacly

I have a 3rd gen 3SGTE motor and 2 x 3rd gen 3SGE motors at my house right now. They all have the same oil setup - cast aluminum upper pan and a pressed steel lower pan (sump).

I'm a firm believer in using the 3SGE for a motor buildup. No demand, so prices are very cheap. Same block and head - just need to swap out the pistons , add fuel add a turbo kit. And I love the 3GE's intake manifold - I'm working on a sheet-metal inake manifold to bolt to the stock lower runners.

my 3SGTE has a fully Cast iron sump if it is a 3rd gen it is supposed to be because it has oil jets in the crank case