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> TWO Cats?, WHY!?!?
post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:23 PM
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I took my car to the muffler shop for a quote on how much my stuff was going to run me to get isntalled, and I have 2 catylitic converters! WHY!!?!?! one is right under the manifold, between the downpipe and the manfiold (or looks this way) can anybody explain why this would be, and if this is restricting to airflow or not?


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post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:30 PM
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believe cali spec celicas have/had 2 cats.


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post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:47 PM
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I'm guessing you have a 94-95 because 96+ only have one cat because emissions are controlled better with the OBDII (I believe, thats the reason). as far as I know the extra cat doesn't hurt your airflow any more than the Celicas with only one cat.


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post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:49 PM
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so with a performance cat, new header, entire exhaust expanded .25 of an inch, ditching the resonator, will i see any difference?


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post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:52 PM
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cat info

GT
94 fed has 1 cat
94 cali has 2

95 + has 2

ST
94-95 are all cali and have 2
96-97 have 1

do you have an ST or a GT ?

This post has been edited by Batman722: Oct 16, 2006 - 10:51 PM


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post Oct 16, 2006 - 10:53 PM
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7afe. St


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post Oct 17, 2006 - 7:14 AM
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My '95 ST is not a CA car and had 2 converters.

I just checked my BGB, you're right. New bit of information I had not really cared to look into until now.

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post Oct 17, 2006 - 7:17 AM
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QUOTE(S_C_M @ Oct 17, 2006 - 8:14 AM) [snapback]492613[/snapback]

My '95 ST is not a CA car and had 2 converters.

all 94-97 STs are Cali spec... rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 18, 2006 - 4:51 PM
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QUOTE(n1ckz0r @ Oct 16, 2006 - 8:49 PM) [snapback]492515[/snapback]

so with a performance cat, new header, entire exhaust expanded .25 of an inch, ditching the resonator, will i see any difference?

you'd probably see a difference with any one of those.

yeah, my 94 GT cali spec has 2. I wonder which would give more performance and less emissions: to swap out the two OBDI converters for one OBDII converter, or two just use two OBDI converters?


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post Oct 20, 2006 - 2:17 AM
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is teh cat located rigth after the exhaust manifold for a 94 gt?


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post Oct 20, 2006 - 7:25 AM
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QUOTE(lazzyboy121 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:17 AM) [snapback]494029[/snapback]

is teh cat located rigth after the exhaust manifold for a 94 gt?

yes. and if you have a cali spec, there is another under the car.


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post Oct 20, 2006 - 10:16 AM
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taking both out and putting an ebay one in!


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post Oct 20, 2006 - 3:19 PM
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Cats? what cats? he, he. We don't need no stinking cats! biggrin.gif

Well, at least not yet.


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post Oct 20, 2006 - 3:54 PM
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Yeah what happens if you just put in a universal cat in place of the two cats on a ST? (legal wise... can the cops check to see how many cats its supposed to have?)

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post Oct 20, 2006 - 4:38 PM
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Yup, I've owned a 96 Camry and it had two, and my 96 Celica ST has the same setup. Essentially you could remove the one under the car, but the top one that is part of the manifold is gonna turn on your CEL if you don't reconnect everything that was on the old manifold. You won't get pulled over for anything and if you're CEL isn't on then you'll pass emissions. I did get pulled over in my Camry once for my exhaust being too loud though lol.
Camry had stock manifold with 2.5 inch exhaust (manifold back), high-flow magniflow cat under car, and magniflow muffler. laugh.gif


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post Oct 21, 2006 - 12:59 PM
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CEL?


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post Oct 21, 2006 - 1:15 PM
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post Oct 23, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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i call the second cat (the smaller one) the Kitten haha cheezy joke


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