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Well, not as straight foreward as the topic, but ive come across this
http://www.jdmconnection.ca/STOCK8019.html

Its in good conditions... thats a twin turbo 300 hp engine... What do you guys think ? ($8100 CDN = 7110 US)

Or stay in the toyota family for $6200 1991 Turbo MR2 GT (3s-gte)
http://www.jdmconnection.ca/STOCK8018.html

This post has been edited by phonex98: Oct 20, 2006 - 1:09 AM

Shouldnt your title say, MR2T vs. Fairlady TT?

^im with him?

Chaning title ... i saw the MR2 AFTER the fairlady...

i'd take the mr2

being an mr2 owner im bias, but ilove my car. the 300z is a lot heavier a PAIN to work on and MUCH more expensive to mod. Drive them both, see what you like, but the deuce is a LOT of fun.

go with the mr2....the Z is ok...looks arent that great...motor is hard to work on and they have have turbo problems

This post has been edited by fastgt: Oct 20, 2006 - 11:07 AM

the duece is missing an engine!! OMFG!!! whata?!?!?! lol

Duece FTW

Wtf are you talking about?

Frankly if your going to decide its what your going to use it for, if you want a time attack/ auto x/ and decent drag car get the mr2.
If you want top speed /drift /drag get the 300z but its going to be much more expensive

im biased cause i owned a 91 mr2 turbo. its a very nice car with the mid engine. you feel like a millionare just being in it..it's like a mini japanese farari..hah... haha. it's quite a rare car to come by and its also fast. if you have a lot of money anything is possible..duh

I'd go with the Z, but I'm biased because I'm a Nissan guy.

Okay this is probabily going to be very long but being someone that has build a 3SGTE for a Celica and owns a 300zx. Here are the good and the bads of both.

****now with buying a used car more then likly the problem areas have been fixed. But in the following i do have listed problem areas for both cars.

Nissan 300zx

weight: 3,494 lbs
engine:3.0L Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) 24-valve
Sequential Twin Turbo Induction V6
with Nissan Valve Control System (NVCS)
Electronic Multiport Fuel Injection
Super Hydraulically Controled Active Steering (HICAS) VG30DETT V6

Torque: 283 ft-lbs @ 3600 RPM

Horsepower: 300 @ 6400 RPM

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Maintenance Trouble Spots
Clutch - On turbocharged models ,the clutch may slip because the clutch-pedal return spring is too weak. (1990-91)
Fuel pump - Adding fuel-injector cleaner to the gas tank can cause corrosion on the fuel injector coils, which will eventually damage them. (1990-94)

Poor drivability - A problem with the power transistor causes drivability and idle problems, and there was a voluntary recall to replace it. (1990-93)

Power seat - The original power-seat switch sticks out and is often kicked and broken, but there is a revised switch with a shorter lever and stronger housing available. (1990)

Windows - The power windows may shudder during operation requiring revised window regulators (1990-91), or the windows may not operate due to dust building up in the main power window switch. (1990-92)

Replacement Costs
A/C Compressor 730
Alternator 535
Automatic Transmission or Transaxle 1620
Brakes 350
Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing 450
Constant Velocity Joints 1400
Exhaust System 370
Radiator 400
Shocks and/or Struts 1300
Timing Chain or Belt



Toyota MR2

engine: turbocharged 3S-GTE, which was again only available in Japan at 220 hp (164 kW) (as the MR2 GT) and the USA at 200 hp (149 kW) (as the MR2 Turbo) dual-overhead-cam designs with four valves per cylinder, mounted transversely behind the 2-passenger cockpit

*****
Maintenance Trouble Spots
Audio system - Several problems with the sound system including CD player that skips or fails to play due to lens distortion (1992), CD skips or displays "ERR"
(1992-92), cassette tapes will not eject (1990), whining noise from the speakers produced by alternator (1991), sound cuts out in cold weather (1991).

Audio system - The dome light may not work, the door speakers may cut out or quit working, and/or the radio may quit working because water gets into the wiring harness and causes corrosion in the terminals. (1991)

Vehicle noise - A clicking or ticking noise, that sounds like a speedometer cable problem ,is caused by the drive-motor circuitry requiring replacement. (1991)

Replacement Costs
A/C Compressor 810
Alternator 295
Automatic Transmission or Transaxle 1125
Brakes 330
Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing 575
Constant Velocity Joints 1100
Exhaust System 345
Radiator 635
Shocks and/or Struts 950
Timing Chain or Belt 265

********************************************************************

IMO working on both these engine's can be difficult for some people. They are both larger engines and give no room to work, personally i found working on the 300zx easier then the 3SGTE. As for weight.....I don't know the weight on the MR2 but with that car being so small it probabily weighs less then the 300zx.

The 300zx has been a very popular car

The Z32 300ZX Turbo was on Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list every year it was available, from 1990 through 1996. The Z32 Turbo was also Motor Trend's Import Car of the Year for 1990. It was critically acclaimed by many magazines as being a complete turnaround from the Z31, which many critics felt was a sloppy-handling GT, far from the agile, sporty 240Z of years past. From the year it was introduced, it won many comparison tests against similar sports cars such as the Mitsubishi 3000GT/Dodge Stealth and the Mazda RX-7, as well as the Chevrolet Corvette, Toyota Supra and the Porsche 968.

The Z32 300ZX also made it to Automobile Magazine's list of 25 Most Beautiful Cars in August 2006 and 20 Greatest Cars in April 2006

when the MR2 well wasn't even mentioned anywhere for anything.

I guess in the end it all depends on personal preferance but i truthfully would take the 300zx over the MR2 anyday.

sorry about how long this was... ...mybad......hope i helped a little and didn't just confuse you

This post has been edited by celicagurl152003: Oct 22, 2006 - 1:49 AM

^^^ your not entirly correct. If your talking about a more reliable car and less money to work on, the mr2 is better. More fun and agile in corners. And the mr2 HAS been mentioned in magazines...



on more than one car and driver list its been mentioned as top 10 for under 50 grand. Its a baby ferrari, what else can you ask for.

Mr2 for the win dude.

This post has been edited by Glitch001: Oct 22, 2006 - 4:24 AM

Hahah.. thanks so much for all your input! Ill let you guys know if i decide to get one or the other.. or maybe both THanks guys!

I have a 300zx TT and I have to say its WAAAAYto heavy. I can feel the huge difference compared to the 3sgte celi I had. So I would probably say stick with the Toyota. Its true that I believe theyre more reliable. But look at both cars, they have mods, so that means the previous owners raced it so you might be looking at Maintenance soon.


Well thats just my $.02

Adios,
David

p.s Anyone wanna buy a pearl white 91 fairlady TT?? $5700??? Im in SoCal.

i weighed my mr2 turbo and it came out at 2600lbs. with my, my 160lbs frame, it would come down to 2760lbs total. hehe yeah mr2 is light.