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post Aug 10, 2003 - 3:00 PM
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What is better? Auto or Manual..of course Manual is the best!

I got an automatic because the auto had lower miles..I want to get a new Celica to just make it manual but the miles are high and the price is overpriced. My girlfriend said if I am going to buy a car why buy another Celica...

Is there any way that I can turn my auto to manual? Instead of buying a new car? Anyone in Southern California that could do it?
post Aug 10, 2003 - 3:06 PM
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yes you can. there have been a few that have done it. it's not too hard, just sourcing all the parts you need is the pain. tongue.gif

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post Aug 10, 2003 - 3:41 PM
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Is there somebody on this site that has done this converstion? This is something I will also try if it's not to expensive and if it's not going to make my tranny weaker. Anybody know where we can find a parts list for this conversion?
post Aug 10, 2003 - 4:44 PM
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QUOTE (aEr @ Aug 10, 2003 - 1:41 PM)
Is there somebody on this site that has done this converstion? This is something I will also try if it's not to expensive and if it's not going to make my tranny weaker. Anybody know where we can find a parts list for this conversion?

it wouldnt make the tranny weaker

you will be installing a whole different tranny.


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post Aug 10, 2003 - 4:55 PM
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The work almost ain't worth it. I had a friend that did it to his eclipse, and when he finished, he said he just wished that he had sold that one, and bought a different one already with a manual. Its your call though.


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post Aug 10, 2003 - 5:07 PM
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QUOTE (aEr @ Aug 10, 2003 - 2:41 PM)
Is there somebody on this site that has done this converstion? This is something I will also try if it's not to expensive and if it's not going to make my tranny weaker. Anybody know where we can find a parts list for this conversion?

no parts lists. you just need all the parts that a 5speed celica has that your car does not have. and it's not hard, if you know what you're doing, or whoever is doing it knows what they're doing, you can swap it out in a good day's work. wink.gif.

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btw, general cost would be anywhere from 700 to 1200 depending on where you get the stuff from and the kinda prices you get...


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post Aug 11, 2003 - 3:08 AM
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Has anyone tried it? I am willing to try it or pay someone to change it for me LoL. Damn I hope finding parts are easy to find. Where should I start? LoL
post Aug 11, 2003 - 4:48 AM
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I just did the swap this summer. Yes, it would have been much cheaper if i had bought a new celi that was manual. But if you are attached to your car, that specific car, as much as i am, then the swap is your only option for fulldriving enjoyment. For me, it was about $1000 in parts and another $1000 in labor. There were a few complications here and there that pushed the price up a bit more, but those are things im sure you wont run into if you source the parts right and know what you are getting.

Here is the list of things you will need (i got this list from Nemesis3S-GTE on celica.net):

-Tranny
-Shifter/cables (junkyard, EXPENSIVE otherwise)
-Flywheel (get it machined if from a junkyard)
-Clutch Master cyl.
-Slave cyl.
-New clutch
-Clutch metal fluid lines (junkyard)
-Rubber clutch line (New from Toyota)
-Flywheel bolts (new from Toyota)
-Pressure plate bolts (new from Toyota)
-Clutch pedal assy.
-Manual brake pedal assy.
-Tranny fluid (the tranny comes empty, don't ask how I found this out )
-Brake fluid for clutch

get everything you can from a junkyard, the toyota dealer is expensive. Try www.car-parts.com, you will find a bunch of stuff there. But somethings like the flywheel bolts, presure plate bolts and fluid lines you can only get from toyota.

there are a few more people on celica.net that have done it besides me. Thats where i got all the info to do mine. Ask around there, they were all pretty nice and very helpful. Feel free to PM me as well, but i had a shop do it, so the only thing i know is how to do is source the parts and find a good shop.


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post Aug 14, 2003 - 2:57 AM
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Orvillez Celica...whoa man you're descriptive i need to chat with you somemore cause I am attached to my Celica....lol... so you spent 2 g's holy man..lol ok its worth it..

Does anyone else know a shop that can change it in so CALI?!?!? or anything?? I'm desperate here i want to do this veyr soon..

-chris-
post Aug 14, 2003 - 2:13 PM
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just an idea, but you might want to save up and do a engine swap and the auto/manual conversion at the same time. it'll save you money in the long run. smile.gif
post Aug 17, 2003 - 11:04 PM
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I don't really understand why you want to get rid of the auto because if and I do mean if, you learn how to use the auto's "power mode" (assuming you have a celica from '94-'99 with the dual mode automatic tranny) you can out run a camaro or mustang base all day long. But that is only if the person who own the car before you had taken car of it and you have taken care of it.
post Aug 18, 2003 - 1:57 AM
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what is a dual mode automatic?? ive never even heard of that before...and i have an automatic.
post Aug 18, 2003 - 3:21 AM
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i would suppose that he is trying to talk fancy about the o/d button on the side of the shifter.

on is one mode
off is another mode

dual mode.
post Aug 18, 2003 - 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (LigerZero @ Aug 17, 2003 - 9:04 PM)
I don't really understand why you want to get rid of the auto because if and I do mean if, you learn how to use the auto's "power mode" (assuming you have a celica from '94-'99 with the dual mode automatic tranny) you can out run a camaro or mustang base all day long. But that is only if the person who own the car before you had taken car of it and you have taken care of it.

shut the uck up bout the power mode !!!!!...ur car can never out run a camaro or mustang with your auto ST...not even in your DREAMS !...here's some advice: since you dont know what you're talkin about, just do some less talkin and more reading so you can get your facts straight. rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 18, 2003 - 7:22 PM
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QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Aug 18, 2003 - 8:24 AM)
QUOTE (LigerZero @ Aug 17, 2003 - 9:04 PM)
I don't really understand why you want to get rid of the auto because if and I do mean if, you learn how to use the auto's "power mode" (assuming you have a celica from '94-'99 with the dual mode automatic tranny) you can out run a camaro or mustang base all day long. But that is only if the person who own the car before you had taken car of it and you have taken care of it.

shut the uck up bout the power mode !!!!!...ur car can never out run a camaro or mustang with your auto ST...not even in your DREAMS !...here's some advice: since you dont know what you're talkin about, just do some less talkin and more reading so you can get your facts straight. rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 25, 2003 - 12:38 AM
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i always have overdrive off because it responds quicker and doesnt have to change gears. but is that bad for the car in any way?
post Aug 25, 2003 - 4:52 PM
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its not bad to have overdrive on or off. overdrive just puts it in the highest possible gear to keep the revs down. its a fuel economy thing. the name is misleading. if you want to go fast turn the overdrive off, or else youll be able to write a symphony before you reach 100 mph.
post Aug 25, 2003 - 5:23 PM
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QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Aug 18, 2003 - 8:21 AM)
i would suppose that he is trying to talk fancy about the o/d button on the side of the shifter.

on is one mode
off is another mode

dual mode.

No LIGER ZERO isn't trying to talk fancy, he means it... I have an automatic and it is dual mode as well... All it is... is that when you are cruising and not trying to show out or rev beyond 4 grand you are in economy mode, When you are wanting to just through the celica through the twisties then you are probably revving above 4 grand and the torque converter and transmission adjust themselves to shift faster and at higher RPMS. I can take my celica st up to about 6 grand plus a few quarters and that is when the rev limiter kicks in and the car shifts.

So watch what yal say about autos, because not all celica's (definitely not all st or gt's in america) have the dual mode auto though...
post Aug 25, 2003 - 5:29 PM
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QUOTE (Celicav @ Aug 19, 2003 - 12:22 AM)
QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Aug 18, 2003 - 8:24 AM)
QUOTE (LigerZero @ Aug 17, 2003 - 9:04 PM)
I don't really understand why you want to get rid of the auto because if and I do mean if, you learn how to use the auto's "power mode" (assuming you have a celica from '94-'99 with the dual mode automatic tranny) you can out run a camaro or mustang base all day long. But that is only if the person who own the car before you had taken car of it and you have taken care of it.

shut the uck up bout the power mode !!!!!...ur car can never out run a camaro or mustang with your auto ST...not even in your DREAMS !...here's some advice: since you dont know what you're talkin about, just do some less talkin and more reading so you can get your facts straight. rolleyes.gif

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You shut the F*** up because you don't even know how to spell... Dumb A**

A celica st with its "power mode on" can smoke even a Z28 or TTA (and since you don't know my BF, you should know that a TTA is a Turbocharge Trans AM) I have beat then finally by only adding a cat-back and carbon fiber hood and rims and tires to my car. Now, to let you in on something, I hope you don't think that we broke the speed limit in any way and I hope you know that we did not do it on a straight long road that has no turns in it for 10 miles. BUT We did it on a small narrow road, about 5 miles long with only one straight that is about 6/10s of a mile. So shut the F*** up you F**L
post Aug 25, 2003 - 7:37 PM
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you should be more specific then. when people think of outrun etc etc they think of dragging. you are talking about twisty so say twisty otherwise people will think you're just pullin stuff out of your ass. so what if people can't spell? does that have anything to do with anything outside the classroom/report? anywayz cf,rims doesn't really do anything in term of performance ^^ maybe save some weight but that's about it. if you want to run faster put on 13's =D

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