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okay, these 2 people were talking about burning out and stuff cause they had their so called "american muscle" cars and i said that my car can burn out pretty well but not really good. so one of them gets pissed off! he tells me "you might be able to PEELout but you cant BURNout"...i didnt know there was a difference!

so then he tells me "you cant even talk in conversations like this cause you have a rice burner you f***er." so then, later, they are talking about how many valves they have in their engines and they both say 2 valves per cylinder and i say "i have 4 valves per cylinder so thats like 16 valves." (not trying to act like my car is better or anything) and the guy gets pissed off again! he's all "no you dont! thats bs." anyway, i tell him im positive because it says right on the engine "16 valves".

this just pissed me off very badly. he always talks about how "4 bangers" suck ass. some of them have over 300 hp! plus, he has this crappy $2300 '89 mustang w/a crappy paint job and he thinks his car is sooo much better than mine. he hates all rice burners and i just dont understand how people hate them so much. he knows that i know that his car is faster than mine...but its not slower than **** like he says it is.

thank you for listening to my frustration of these kinds of people.

This post has been edited by 6gencelicasrule: Sep 7, 2003 - 7:53 PM

some poeple just think that there cars are the best cars ever made.. but just tell them is your car is the best car ever made they would still make it right..

get yourself some laughing gas and show up those idiots. I can't stand people like that.

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nitrous oxide, no2, otherwise known as NAAAAAWS

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ehh my dad is like that, allways talking **** on " rice burners" he doesn't under stand that half of the people on this board could whomp all over his ass in a race.

we constantly argue about why people spend money supping(sp) up a 4cyl
"i dont know why people waste money on those pussy engines" is something he would say, my dad is a very simple minded person. haha .

but all in all I think they are just afraid of the rice burner.




-Brandon

Im the same, a friend of mine has a ss camaro and he has put 17k into it and it only runs 14 seconds (no turbo or super, all engine). Im like dude, you give me 17k and i will modify an import that will rape you. But muscle car owners are stuck up on having "all engine". Unfortunetly there are "muscle car owners" and "ricers" and then "us". I know almost everyone on this board would never hate on any other car, not to mention our cars are not "rice burners" There arent many "rice" mods for our cars. And we show respect to other cars, for example the 300zx pic in the off topic, everyone who saw it gave it a huge compliment, if you were to put that pic on a honda or chevy website all you would get is hate. Its pretty much ridiculous.

there are guys like that at my school, except they hate on hondas and foci. i always get asked how fast my car is

the best thing is that out of all the people i hear talking about cars only the people that respect my car for what it is know anything.

i can talk circles even around the auto shop teacher, who i am conviced is only the auto shop teacher because they let him store his boat on campus.

now some of you guys may not like this analogy but i relate the domestic vs import rivalry to racism.

its all learned by kids from their parents that grew up with 300+hp camaros and gutless hondas

fact is i was reading the fourgasm article in C&D. they had a bunch of "ricer burners", made by some fairly decent aftermarket companies out there testing their cars and such to see how they measured up. they had some pretty quick ones, and most were in a pretty decent price range. the most expensive was a cobb tuning WRX which totaled like 84K, the second most expensive was the Comptech S2000 which was like 68K. the comptech finished the competition the fastest, which consisted of a standing 1/4, into a road race section, then onto the oval track where you brought the car to 130 MPH, then once you did that, you got onto the brakes untill the car was at a complete stop. all in one run, testing all aspects of the car. (this was done at CAL speedway.) well after the competition was done, and everyone was packing up, they brought out a bone stock '04 Z06 which i think cost like 58k, which spanked every car in every aspect, and finished the course 1.4 seconds faster than the comptech S2000.

no replacement for displacement. boosting only helps a little.

as for $84k into a wrx? what exactly did they do? im pretty sure that included the cost of the car and what ever cosmetic stuff they did because if i spend 84k on my car im pretty sure the would be illegal even on a track

z06's are ok. they are fast and powerful and have good handling, but its nothing different from a regualar corvette except for high compression and factory performance parts.

they should have put in a big block, or had an SC engine

People need to learn to show respect for what other people enjoy. There will always be people who are a$$ holes though. Anyway, people need to quit comparing muscle cars to imports because beside the fact that they are cars they have almost nothing in common. It is like comparing a 737 to an F-18. Anyway, not all guys with muscle cars are jerks. I got a couple buddies that have some sweet Super Sports and Chevelles and they love it when me and some other "four-bangers" come cruisin with them.

This is exactly the problem. All these kids grow up with their dad having a Camaro or Rustang, or Firebird, and of course you look up to your dad...so you see that those cars are ultra cool, but unfortunately as you grow up you're completely ignorant to the fact that there are other automobiles out there, so you grow a mullet, and install a Old Milwaukee holder in you Trans Am and **** talk cars with 1.8L engines, even though when properly modified could stomp all over your Trans Am with RAM AIR (RAM AIR, OMG).

I'm glad the first new car my dad ever bought was a '79 Celica.

(Sorry, I needed to vent...my ex-girlfriend wanted a Firebird...and I dislike my ex-girlfriend greatly, because her and her brother talked **** about my car).

This post has been edited by Cody: Sep 8, 2003 - 1:04 AM

For the most part. Not many ppl have our cars or even sup it up. Reasons being is that no one knows much about the celica! If you ask a honda tuner about the 6th gen celica they'll respond to the toyota engine and how it is. the car never became popular when it came out because of its brothers/sisters (depends how you look at it) the mr2 and the supra. Both were made to be fast. and if you were lookin to race back in the 90's they were the cars to get from toyota. And the celica apeals more to the ladies til this day!

If toyota wanted to make the celica their top line sportcar then it would have been 2 seater and equipped with the 3s-gte. but then again that sounds like the mr2.

what i find interesting is that they consider their cars to be high performance when anything over 5k rpm would scatter their engine all over the pavement not to mention the super efficient 8 mpg or less that they are getting. Furthermore last time i checked my celi did a bit more than go in a straight line.

i agree also.. my dad loves audi's so do i.. but luck me he is a mechanic and he told me something that opened my eyes.. he said all cars are good it just matters how well you take care of them. and all engine work the same(4 stroke engines).

It's just those idiotic people that watch fast n the furious too much and buy a honda and say that they race when all it have is an intake that give all other import owners a bad name. People like those that just give us a bad name so people that are into them muscle cars n stuff just generalize us into that same category but they don't know us well enough to know that we're not as stupid as that. Plus, they give us that excues about how we waste so much money to make it as fast as their car. On the other hand, all we do is see them waste money on their old ass "american muscle" just to try to maintain them . I aint hatin on any american cars cus some of them got some major balls but if they gunna lay it on us I might as well turn it around back on them cus it aint liek they're cars are the shiz anyways. All i gotta say is that they should get a clue before they say **** cus for all they know they're will be a "ricer" around that'll set them in their place.

so what if they cant rev over 5000rpm(btw they can and many do have a 6k-6.5k redline) my cousin had a 2000 mustang GT with an off road h pipe, borla exhaust, and CAI as well as 3.73 gears. the car had amazing low end power and was very fast despite the 6k or so redline. sometimes he would rev up really high just to piss off his neighbors.

no point in reving past the power band. that is why i like my car more than a honda with Vtec or a new GTS with vvtli.

where is the fun in having a car where the power starts after the the power of a lower rpm engine has been fully reached?

HP sells cars, torque wins races. performance wise, i will always choose good low end power over high HP #'s at 7krpm+

the vortec 305 and 350 engines in the newer chevy trucks and cars are very well capable of 18-20mpg, which is not bad when you look at the displacment. its the drivers that make the car get 8mpg

This is true. The respect train runs only one way here. If they respected what we do with our cars, then I could show a little bit for them. I don't hate the cars they drive - I hate the car's drivers.

Just like hondas, I dont hate the car, I hate the driver