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 Aug 29, 2007 - 9:53 PM
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Hey just wondering is it possible to supercharge the beams engine on stock internals. and if so how much can it handle. Also would it be worth swaping in the beams vs 3sgte
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Aug 29, 2007 - 10:01 PM
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id say no...but you can research here
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Aug 29, 2007 - 10:03 PM
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just wondering cuz the beams comes 210 stock and the 2nd gen 3sgte is the same power
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Aug 30, 2007 - 9:07 PM
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QUOTE(JDcelica @ Aug 29, 2007 - 9:53 PM) [snapback]592027[/snapback] Hey just wondering is it possible to supercharge the beams engine on stock internals. and if so how much can it handle. Also would it be worth swaping in the beams vs 3sgte thanks Josh why not ????.... for altezza BEAMS Black-Top (stock compression 11:1) ...Blitz have supercharger kits #10159 #101560 I asked Blitz about possibility put SC kit from Alteza IS2000 to RedTop, answer : "the IS200 supercharger kit 10159 or 101560 is totally different to the Celica 2ZZGE 10126 kit. I'm afraid Blitz have never tried a supercharger kit onto the red top engine, so we would not be able to recommend it to you...." QUOTE(JDcelica @ Aug 29, 2007 - 10:03 PM) [snapback]592030[/snapback] just wondering cuz the beams comes 210 stock and the 2nd gen 3sgte is the same power I know two cars with BEAMS RedTop about ~195 whp This post has been edited by pasqual: Aug 30, 2007 - 9:13 PM -------------------- BEAMS swaped .......
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Sep 5, 2007 - 6:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sorry it took so long to respond. Thanks for the info. what about the vortec style superchargers that jackson makes? I heard they are rated for like 22 psi or something crazy.
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Sep 6, 2007 - 1:23 PM
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QUOTE(pasqual @ Aug 31, 2007 - 3:07 AM) [snapback]592268[/snapback] "the IS200 supercharger kit 10159 or 101560 is totally different to the Celica 2ZZGE 10126 kit. I'm afraid Blitz have never tried a supercharger kit onto the red top engine, so we would not be able to recommend it to you...." I think Blitz missed the point, saying its compeltely different to the 2ZZGE kit? well it would be as thats the Gen7 engine 
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Sep 6, 2007 - 5:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanks for the input.
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Sep 6, 2007 - 7:51 PM
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The Gen6 beams push 195bhp as apposed to the Altezza's 210bhp.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though I'm quite sure that the celica beams is different to the altezza beams. ie, the vvti works differently on both blocks. -------------------- |
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Sep 7, 2007 - 5:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yea I read that the black top Beams has both the intake and exhaust as variable and the red top is only one of them.
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Sep 8, 2007 - 4:53 AM
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QUOTE(JDcelica @ Sep 7, 2007 - 11:07 PM) [snapback]594294[/snapback] Yea I read that the black top Beams has both the intake and exhaust as variable and the red top is only one of them. Yup, that's the one i read... Celica Beams is on intake only -------------------- |
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Sep 8, 2007 - 6:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Does any one no how much harder a beams swap would be compared to a 3sgte swap
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Sep 8, 2007 - 9:42 PM
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QUOTE(JDcelica @ Sep 8, 2007 - 5:48 PM) [snapback]594503[/snapback] Does any one no how much harder a beams swap would be compared to a 3sgte swap i would say about the same if not easier cuz it should come with the tranny that you will want (LSD FTW!!!) as well as you won't need to put in all the extra gauges that you will want with a turbo set up. the 3sgte will give you a lot more power though. --------------------  Call me a traitor! See if I care. ;) |
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Sep 8, 2007 - 10:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 11, '07 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks for the info.
Im considering getting a beams and was also wondering what hard ware I need to get in addition for a swap. Or lead me to good thread. -------------------- [img=http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=signature2fs0.jpg]
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Sep 10, 2007 - 9:34 PM
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Some info about SC for 3s-ge and 5s-
http://www.mr2.com/forums/mcs-motorsports/...ion-thread.html QUOTE(JDcelica @ Sep 8, 2007 - 10:19 PM) [snapback]594558[/snapback] Thanks for the info. Im considering getting a beams and was also wondering what hard ware I need to get in addition for a swap. Or lead me to good thread. BEAMS swap for st202 in progress
This post has been edited by pasqual: Sep 10, 2007 - 9:37 PM -------------------- BEAMS swaped .......
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Sep 10, 2007 - 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(goferris @ Sep 8, 2007 - 9:42 PM) [snapback]594546[/snapback] QUOTE(JDcelica @ Sep 8, 2007 - 5:48 PM) [snapback]594503[/snapback] Does any one no how much harder a beams swap would be compared to a 3sgte swap i would say about the same if not easier cuz it should come with the tranny that you will want (LSD FTW!!!) as well as you won't need to put in all the extra gauges that you will want with a turbo set up. the 3sgte will give you a lot more power though. although you do need a beams speedo and tach because your stock ones wont work with that motor... -------------------- 2015 Subaru WRX. World Rally Blue/Black
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Sep 10, 2007 - 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(spolski07 @ Sep 11, 2007 - 11:25 AM) [snapback]595045[/snapback] QUOTE(goferris @ Sep 8, 2007 - 9:42 PM) [snapback]594546[/snapback] QUOTE(JDcelica @ Sep 8, 2007 - 5:48 PM) [snapback]594503[/snapback] Does any one no how much harder a beams swap would be compared to a 3sgte swap i would say about the same if not easier cuz it should come with the tranny that you will want (LSD FTW!!!) as well as you won't need to put in all the extra gauges that you will want with a turbo set up. the 3sgte will give you a lot more power though. although you do need a beams speedo and tach because your stock ones wont work with that motor... i think it does, just re-wire it.
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