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hey ya'll,

i'm pretty sure someone already has 5.1 surround in their celica. it requires some cutting in front center dash.

now, here's the interesting part. there is a home deck player by Pioneer (DV-588-A). i know it's not made for the car, but it's pretty small. i'm not that mechnical myself, but i would like to see someone here or elsewhere modify their car to convert a home deck into mobile. why would somen be crazy enough to do this? SACD&DVD-Audio MLP. so far, Sony hasn't licensed SACD playback for the car yet. DVD-Audio MLP is available but only @$1,000+ for a headunit. DV-588 costs only $130 over internet. plus, it plays MP3s, divx, etc. the problem is that celicas are small. plus, if there are existing carputers, it might pose as a space issue. just giving this idea to someone who has the will&know how to do it.

oh, BTW, since the home deck doesn't have the buffer memory, some sort of shock absorber has to be made to make it feasible.

This post has been edited by JediFonger: Oct 3, 2005 - 12:11 AM

The one I found is like 16" wide... I guess that might fit in the glove box area.. but I'd like something narrower.

An inverter, AV out to an LCD, and audio out to amps for front/rear/sub doesnt seem to hard to do..

Maybe look into some of the carpc stuff for buffering it?

no one likes listening to true multichannel music? anyone?

I will be installing 5.1 surround sound into my Celica this month. Its not exactly a big deal.

Just get a cheap DVD player (wihtout screen) connect it to 5.1 amplifier and buy tweeter for the center channel and a subwoofer. That should make it really good for high resolution sound. But the thing is, where are you going to find music thats recorded in 5.1?

You could use Dolby Pro Logic II to simulate 5.1 from stereo music. There are very few 5.1 recorded audio DVDs out there.

music mixed with 5.1 in mind is very diff. than just throwing DPL on top of stereo.

they have Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon in 5.1 SACD or Lord of the Rings Fellowship in DVD-Audio 5.1. it sounds awesome @home. i'd love to take it out on the road IN 5.1 untainted. there's a handful, but it's enough to win me over.

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/con...ease/30914.html
^well it might be 2late, but it's actually happening! =P. i hope they're smart enough to license that out to other mfr. so universal players can happen.

5.1, 7.1 and everything else is merely trying to replicate the sound of "True Stereo"

This is accomplished with only 2 well placed speakers and a sub. SACD and DVDA both sound amazing with this setup.

A friend of mine is a serious audiophile and has a small listening room in his house.... It takes a good ammount of money and some serious dedication to set it all up, but its worth it. I was skeptical until he played some Jazz in SACD for me... i tell you.. it sounded like i was sitting on the stage with the musicians.
Just to give you an idea of the price for something like this.. He went a lower end route and still spent over $700 just for speaker wire.

Most audio you find will not be recorded in any of the simulated stereo formats (5.1, 7.1 etc..)

Kind of rambling now... but i think I had a point to make somewhere in here.. :-)

yo manny, long time no shee =P. how time flies.

i have to disagree with the notion of multichannel music trying to replicate stereo.

adding the surrounds enables the acoustics to fill out much better than than simply stereo. no matter how hard you try, the pair of stereo speakers aren't able to project sound that is coming from the back of you. i have a few mixtures of both stereo and 5.1 hybrid SACD recordings and my fav. are well recorded and mixed 5.1. a perfect example is pink floyd's dark side of the moon. hearing that in 5.1 means no going back to simply stereo. there's simply no going back... unfortunately, people have abandoned high-res. sound for puny sounding .mp3 because of convenience.

re: recorded. yesh, multichannel music is typically mixed (like pink floyd), although Star Trek Nemesis 5.1 track was actually recorded in multichannel with mixing to adjust levels.

@home, i have a 7.1 setup that can tackle sacd, dvda, home theater stuff (HD), unfortunately... my room acoustics sux. your room can determine how well things can sound.

furthermore, more $ doesn't mean it is automatically going to sound awesome. there's a certain threshhold of $ vs. performance where once you cross it, it's gonna become more about bling than sound quality. most people's ears are going to fail to detect that difference anyways.

that's why i have a desire to move that type of a setup to car. the car has the perfect audio environment (inside the car, i know there's a craptastic amount of noise pollution outside of the car) given the correct variables.

This post has been edited by JediFonger: Sep 26, 2007 - 10:24 AM

Hey man... hows it goin....
I actually felt the same way, until i was at a friends place and went into his listening room. He played some Jazz on an SACD with his "true stereo" setup. My initial opinion was.. How the hell are you gonna get superior sound from 2 towers and a sub??? He just said.. listen....
I'll tell you... it blew my mind... with my eyes closed it felt like I was at a jazz concert on a sound stage.
A lot of it has to do with:
the speaker placement
the room acoustics
the actual components.

He has enough money to actually set something like that up... but for my broke ass.... I wouldnt even attempt.
As for my home setup... I am happy with my old school 5.1 system I got 8 years ago....

In a car, you're right... well.. I have a vert.. so I have **** ammount of noise from outside coming in... but... I agree with moving a multichannel setup into a car simply because... there is no real economical way to install a true stereo setup in a vehicle. You would pretty much have to make it impossible to drive.

I have an older pioneer deh9400mp... Its still an awesome deck and I have not been able to find anything that sounds as good for under $500, so Im gonna stick with it until it breaks.. and my celi is the 4th vehicle I have moved it to.

Rather than setup a multichannel though, I played with the speaker timing and used some tuning cd's to get mine setup the way I like it... Some people dont like.. some people do... I only really care about how it sounds to me.... and the fact that i spend maybe 20 mins a day in the car makes it not a real high priority for me to invest any more time or money into it.

as far as disagreeing... I understand.... I sound full of ****... but I had to hear it to believe it myself....

-M