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In Barbados, a lot of guys have put together their turbocharger kit.

This post is to show you in simple terms how easy or hard it is to turbocharged your ride.

I believe my USA, AUS and other will find the part more readily available than us here in the Caribbean.

Please note that this document is to serve as a reference for your customized job. I am not liable for any damages and problems cause buy this document.

I am not a Mechanic, Engineer or have anything relate to the automotive industry.

I have been very fortunate to be around Mechanics, Auto Electricians and people doing these projects.

Part List:

Note pad, Computer or your little brother/sister making notes

1) Meters for monitoring your car. E.g., Temp, Boost, A/R Ratio, pressure and so on.

I would recommend Blitz DC Series meters* or any other

Power Meter
You can also use the Btilz Power Meter i-D http://www.blitz-na.com/PM_ID.htm OR the G-TECH/Pro Competition http://www.gtechpro.com Monitoring tool.

2) New Computer like Autronics, Motec, TEC3 or piggy back computers like the Apex AVC & SAFC

3) Blitz Turbo Timer or any other

4) Ignition Controller with Boost and Timing controls. E.g. Crane Cams (6000-6466
)*, MSD(PN 6520), HKS

5) Ignition Coil. Nology M80*, Crane Cams LS92, MSD PN 8252

6) Nology Plug wires* or TRD, MSD, Crane Cams or any others

7) Iridium Spark Plugs. NGK, HKS

8) Hoses, wire, clamps, cable ties and other stuff you might need as you go along

9) Light Rims like OZ Racing*, Racing Hart, Yokohama Advan* Rims and so on.

10) VeilSide*, MagnaFlow, HKS, Apex or any other exhaust w/ customize 2.5 -3” down pipe.
11) Customized header for the turbo

12) JIC, TRD or others structural braces.

13) JIC Suspension, Ground Control Suspension

Include anything here to make you car performer like a street/race car for handling and performance.


No ordering here. You are now in turbo world

Forge Pistons and Crank if you can. If not, please run low boost <8psi with the small HKS turbo like the GT2510 or even small GT-SS from HKS or Toyota CT20B*

Cam Gear from AEM, HKS, JUN or where ever you can get one for your vehicle

Celica GTFour turbo CT20B or any other within a 300HP+ specs. All turbos have internal wastegates. Please verify this with HKS first.

- HKS GT 2510* or GT2530 or GT2535
- Please give yourself enough room for future HP numbers

BOV (Blow Off Valves) from Blitz, HKS, Greddy and others

Celica GTFour injectors or new Injectors from RC Engineering (500-550cc)

Adjustable Fuel pressure regulator with optional boost inlet. e.g. 2 vacuum ports + fuel in/out

- HKS http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=630
- TRD


Intercooler from HKS or some other manufactures. You can also try the GTFour or OEM intercooler from any other car manufactures

Piping,hoses and clamps for turbo setup

Oil Cooler for cooling the engine oil and piping to carry oil to and from the turbo.

Most of All, a lot of research in turbocharging your car.

Please take your time in setting up and tuning your car. Short cuts does not get you any way. You may even be ready to offer a custom kit to others once you can get those parts available.

Info + Links
High Grip Tires (Possibly Dot)

Bridgestone Potenza RE01 Japanese tire (Better than the S03) http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/u...lp=ja_en&tt=url

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/u...01%2F01top.html

Bridgestone Potenza S03

Yokohama Advan Neova

Nitto NT-555 "Extreme ZR” http://www.nittotire.com/mainframe.asp

http://www.toyoracing.com/

http://www.kumhousa.com/pages/pcr/ev700.htm

http://www.kumhousa.com/pages/pcr/vv700.htm

http://www.kumhousa.com/pages/pcr/pass_comp.htm


Fuel Controller
http://www.apexi-usa.com/electronics_safc.asp


Ignition Coil
http://www.nology.com/profireauto.html


Injectors
http://www.rceng.com/
http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=718


TurboChargers (Lite)
http://www.hksusa.com/categories/more.asp?id=1092

BlowOff Valves
http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=792


Boost Controller
http://www.apexi-usa.com/electronics_savcr.asp


Miscellaneous
http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_Products.htm

http://www.xs-engineering.com/

http://www.motec.com/products/plm.htm



Intakes
http://www.blitz-na.com/Toyota_Intake.htm

http://www.apexi-usa.com/intake_powerintake.asp



Radar
http://www.beltronics.com/vector990.html

http://www.beltronics.com/vector985.html


Security
http://www.clarion.com/products/security/secure1.htm


Muffler
http://www.veilside.com/veilsideusa/muffle...r/TiMuffler.htm


Electronics Ignition (for your car)
http://www.cranecams.com/ignition/hi6trc.htm


Rims
http://www.ozwheels.com/OZ_html/carWheels.html Far Right under O.Z. Racing
http://www.racinghart.com/wheels_rac.asp


This post has been edited by west_minist: Jan 25, 2003 - 4:32 PM

Please remember that this project need extraordinary care.

Please remember your Fuel demand, oil levels, new oil, consistency in checking oil levels, oil pressures, oil temperature. In fact, check all temperatures on the engine.

Your engine needs fuel! If not you can scrapped it. Remember the Adustable fuel regulator.

Yor timing might have to be retard base on boost and fuel usage.

Again, do some reading in turbocharging vehicle from magazines like Turbomagazine and others.

My list is small and will need additionals info to do certainthings like cutting pipe, making a customse header, welding shops, setting up the piggy back computers and so on.

I look forward to some nice additions from the Neverstop and others who can help others in this project, since everyone just need the cure to cure the big HP+ virus we all have!

This post has been edited by west_minist: Jan 12, 2003 - 7:10 PM

you can get an exhaust manifold from toyosport. I have a question though, do you seriously need rims, tires, and new suspension to make a turbo? Or is that what you have on your car?

lol! I was thinking on saying that 2 but i dont wanna start something. I already had some problems because of what I said earlier on the stickers appearal + kits. You take the words out of my mouth igotta...

sweet thanks for all the sweet links though. im looking into doing the 7af(t)e.
lots of great information.

QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Jan 12 2003, 05:55 PM)

you can get an exhaust manifold from toyosport.  I have a question though, do you seriously need rims, tires, and new suspension to make a turbo?  Or is that what you have on your car?

The aim here:mad: is to have a vehicle performing.

The info is for any car or celica. If toysort, hks or any other makes turbo manifold for the celica 5SFE, 7AFE and so on, then go out and buy it. If not, you will need piecs or angular pipes to make one.

Have you ever when to meets or races and see people turning up with all sort of problems?

How can you gauge the full potential off your car on the street and even after upgrading.

A dyno is a dyno, but those number does not tell you how the car will perform on the street.

The present car performs fairly good.

When you up the hp, everything things counts. The once good suspension, becomes soft and may performs badly, leading the car to under/oversteer, too much body roll and so on.

The once grippy tire at 165HP or so are no longer any use over 220HP.

Come on guys, please think and read before replying. I do not what the list to be long with foolishness. Please understand this.

This post is made to be short. The main thing here is to see what you need and where to start and what you can add.

Getting a good platform and work from there will only show really results.

Example:

I have a friend of my who change his 5AFE in this 1998 corolla to a 4age 20v silver top. The car was mad. He realise that compression was down in 2 cycl's. He did nothing about it. To him, the car was wicked. He was beating some 1600cc Hoda civics, intregras and so on.

He decided to turbocharge it with a custom kit. To make a long story short, he knock the engine.

He got a new 20v silver top bottom, cleaned up the once leaking head and now, the car is almostas fast as the turbo version. The engines revs like mad. This engine gives a better gauge in power and handling. Next step, turbo.

Any friend just turbocharge and forgot about oil, fuel and so forth. He has melt his pistons twice due to the lack of fuel.

He has not piggy back computer, not new high flow injectors and so on.

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 9, 2003 - 8:23 PM

Someone ask me what is a piggy back computer.

A piggy back computer is an extra device which adds functionality to a computerise device.

For instant, you have just put on a Air filter from HKS and a veilside exhaust.

Please remember that with an added new filter, the engine is now breathing better; At least by 20% stated by some. More than likely, you are running a little lean. This is where the Air Fuel Ratio meter comes into play. It is a must. It shows you how your A/F ratio mixture is behaving at varying rpm's.

Have you ever hear someone saying, "the car runs good, but is leaning out or just not performing up top"?

Also, with the added filter, you may want a little perf. To compensate this lean problem, you NEED MORE FUEL. How can you get it? A number of ways which can not be dealt with here or maybe at a later time in this posting.

The best possible way, especially for future project and going turbo, is to have a new computer, which can be expensive.

It is better to go with a PECU (programmeable ECU). The cheapest way that you have have a PECU without stripping in to the harness for a total new computer upgrade like a Autronics, Motec, TEC3 system, is to run a computer that just handle fuel or what ever you need.

The computer allows you to control your fuel requirement fooling the car ecu about things not to worry about.

You can use this same piggy back computer to change fuel requirements base on rpm, boost and so on. More versitility in your control!

I hope that I have done a pretty good job explaining this. Anyone can jump in an add whats needed. My wrist is starting to hurt after a computer accident last week

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 9, 2003 - 8:23 PM

let's say that I bought a PECU. How would I program it?

Is pretty simple.

once setup, please follow the documentation.

You will need one of your friends to help you or a dyno.

You can drive the car as you tune the A?F ratio at different rpm.

You can also store them in presets. Have a economical mode and a race more if you like.

The most important part is the documentation.

I particularly like Apex Super AFC. HKS also has one.

http://www.apexi-usa.com/electronics_safc.asp

For documentation : http://www.apexi-usa.com/productdocumentat...cs_safc_ins.pdf

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 9, 2003 - 8:24 PM

I do not understand.

Your profile states you have a turbo. Did you brought the car so or did you turbo it?

If so, any reason why you are asking me those questions? Are you trying to test me?

they had a topic on celica.net on how you could turbo your car for $700...if anyones interested...

post that link to that forum markusk

QUOTE (snadman @ Jan 12 2003, 08:35 PM)

post that link to that forum markusk

here you go
celica.net

u know it wont hurt u if u at least tried to search for it in celica.net

I am using my stock ecu. I am really interested in this. I am not testing you by any means.

Ok.

You can either go piggy backing or replace your cpu with the Autronics SM2 with the 3sgte harness adapter.

call autronics and get it.

You have a greddy T78. That is very big for your engine.

Expect some lag.

Please list your mod for me to see.

Here is my for this year or next year.

If you have money to spend, look here:

MoTec M800 OR Autronics SM2 w/ Direct Fire CDI OR TEC3 w/ Direct Fire Unit
MoTec CDI/8 Capacitor Discharge Ignition

Nology Plug Wires (I personally did not or report seeing any avantage using trd or any other wires). Nology (www.nology.com) really works. Try a set and see.

HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
HKS GT3037S/T04R Turbo
HKS Head Gasket
HKS Header
HKS GT Wastegate
HKS Racing Blowoff Valve Type II
Blitz Intake
HKS Intercooler
550cc Injectors on Primary + 500cc Injectors on secondary
HKS Fuel System upgrades
TRD FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator)
JUN SPROCKET (1033M-T702)
JUN CAMSHAFT KIT (1033M-T005)
JUN STROKER KIT (1029M-T003)
Fearra Valves
Toda Racing Lightened Flywheel
HKS GD Clutch Pro Multi-Plate Clutch OR Toracing Clutch Kit
Kaaz LSD 1.5way

Tein Type HA Damper Suspension
TRD Strut Tower brace
TRD Rear stabilising brace
TRD Anti-Roll Bars
Brembo Brakes kit
Bridgestone Potenza S03/RE-01/ Bridgestone Potenza 540S/Yokohama Advan Neova/Yokohama Advan A048/Toyo Proxes RA1
- Which ever available. You have the S03's & RA1's in your market. If you can get the other from some import store, let me know. I want some RE01 bad.

Racing Hart M35 Rims
Veilside Front Bumper
VeilSide Side Skirts
Carcept Rear Bumper
VeilSide Rear Wing

When you are finish, you will have a Top Secret Celica for any match.

Setup guarantee for 700HP+

My mods assumes a well prepared block. My only problem is the transmission.

This post has been edited by west_minist: Jan 13, 2003 - 7:47 PM

Did anyone find this to be helpful information?

yes very helpful!

I request this as a sticky thread! lol

west_minist that is a lot of good info... the only problem is alot of people are not as informed as others and not everyone has shops that can do cuztom stuff... also you could just buy a 3sgte or 4agze for the price of everything you have listed. Its still alot of good info though... by the way ever given ne thought to putting a semi turbo on a sport compact??? there like 60lbs of boost... would be a mircale if the thing even survived idel but god it would be nice if you could control that kinda power without it going boom... that what like 4.2 bars?

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Jan 18, 2003 - 2:50 AM

QUOTE

I have a question though, do you seriously need rims, tires, and new suspension to make a turbo? Or is that what you have on your car?

This actually will make your car move faster... lighter rims and tires reduces weight... wider sticker tire mean more power to the ground... suspension keeps you inline... if your torque steering all over then you not makin the most of you power

You are right Neverstop.

Some guys seems not to understand that power needs control.

As I stated, sometimes we like to go out of our way to do certain things.

But remember, even after you turbo, you will still need everything that I mention there.

The only difference is the internal difference between the na & as!

I have read in one magazine on sports compacts HP and power.

It is just disgusting. We need to move beyond those vehics.

no HP & lb ft at low rpm or vice versa.

But that would be nice to see 4bar spitting out of the barrel as the car melt its tires into the pavement and the turbo sky rocketted 1000feet, leaving an expression of ecstacy on the drivers face

Either way, I thought that alot of wanna be turbo's would ask some questions.

Strange isn't it.

Well, I am still putting together a how on the turbo addition to any vehic.

This post has been edited by west_minist: Jun 12, 2003 - 7:08 AM