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> How To install a turbo timer WITH your alarm, mystery solved, and its really easy!
post Jul 20, 2006 - 3:12 PM
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i just installed my turbo timer, and made it work along with my alarm. its so easy, that i cant belive some of us every thought of this as a problem.

first of all, there IS a turbo timer harness that works with our car! any harness labled to work with a 93-96 supra will work with our car. i used a blitz turbo timer, and this is the harness i got. if you want to doubble check if your are buying the right one (if going with another brand TT) just google something like "apexi turbo timer harness ST205 " and use the part number they give you for that harness. this is the one i used:

TY-04 = BLITZ TURBO TIMER HARNESS - 51153


now for the "hard" part of making it work with your alarm. normally your alarm box connects to 2 wires from your igniton. located the point where it was spliced into your ignition wires. there should be a black Ignition wire its spliced into. disconnect the alarm wire that runs to it. this will make the alarm think that the car is NOT running, and allow you to arm the alarm system at any time. THATS IT. now you can take you keys out, get out of the car, arm the alarm, and walk away, while the turbo timer counts down on its own and keeps the engine running.

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post Jul 20, 2006 - 3:27 PM
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Wouldnt the vibration from the engine running or shut down set the alarm off ?

This is a nice find!


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post Jul 20, 2006 - 3:44 PM
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QUOTE(defgeph @ Jul 20, 2006 - 4:27 PM) [snapback]458646[/snapback]

Wouldnt the vibration from the engine running or shut down set the alarm off ?

This is a nice find!



nope, dosnt seem to be an issue.

if it is a problem for some reason, then you can always adjust how sensative your alram is, by the adjusnt ment screw on the brain box and make it a tiny bit less sensative.

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post Jul 20, 2006 - 3:47 PM
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Sweet, this will be a nice addition to the stickies.



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post Jul 20, 2006 - 4:18 PM
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Wouldn't this remove the alarm's ability to disable the ignition of the car? I guess I need to look into how my alarm is wired. I haven't done any wiring on that side of the dash since installing my turbo timer and I didn't try to figure out the alarm at that time...

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post Jul 20, 2006 - 7:06 PM
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QUOTE(phattyduck @ Jul 20, 2006 - 5:18 PM) [snapback]458664[/snapback]

Wouldn't this remove the alarm's ability to disable the ignition of the car? I guess I need to look into how my alarm is wired. I haven't done any wiring on that side of the dash since installing my turbo timer and I didn't try to figure out the alarm at that time...

-Charlie



your right. after installing everythin, i decided to check to see if the started kill still worked with the alarm armed. it DIDNT ! so thats the drawback to doing it this way.

the way i see it is that the starter kill is really just a joke. it would only prevent someone who has your keys, but dosnt have your alarm keychain, from starting the car. anyone else would just yank the alarm out and hot wire the car anyway


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post Jul 20, 2006 - 7:15 PM
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there might be another simple way to do this also.

on my viper alarm, if the car is running and the alarm is hooked up like normal, i can hold down the alarm for 2 seconds and the system will arm. problem is, that once the turbo timer turns the car off, the alarm thinks you took the keys out, and auto opens the door locks for you. so in THEORY, you should be able to reprogram tha auto-open function from your alarm and use it that way with the TT.


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post Jul 20, 2006 - 7:18 PM
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i just use the factory alarm adding a turbo timer didnt mess anything up i can still arm it and lock and unlock the doors with the timer running.


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post Jul 22, 2006 - 8:14 AM
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just to add somthing into this:
while researching about turbo timers and the install before doing my project, i came across a function in my alarm booklet, where you can "delay" the arming of the alarm by a preset amount that you choose (30sec, 1 min ect) after you push the arm button.
i had planed to adjust the setting on my alarm to arm after a minute or so, and id be able to shut the car off, gather my stuff, get out, alarm the car, and have the TT cycle off before the car actually armed itself.
i never installed the TT, so im not 100% positive it would work correctly, but in theory, it should.


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post Jul 22, 2006 - 9:42 AM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:14 AM) [snapback]459433[/snapback]

just to add somthing into this:
while researching about turbo timers and the install before doing my project, i came across a function in my alarm booklet, where you can "delay" the arming of the alarm by a preset amount that you choose (30sec, 1 min ect) after you push the arm button.
i had planed to adjust the setting on my alarm to arm after a minute or so, and id be able to shut the car off, gather my stuff, get out, alarm the car, and have the TT cycle off before the car actually armed itself.
i never installed the TT, so im not 100% positive it would work correctly, but in theory, it should.



the only downside i see to this, is that the alarm would wait 30sec-1min, etc... before it starts to protect your car and lock all the doors. so, you would have to check to see if your doors will lock when you press the remote button, while the car is running.


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post Jan 14, 2008 - 9:13 PM
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sorry to bring an old thread back to life, but I'm having an issue with this right now and want to get it sorted out. here's my issue, the alarm I have automatically arms itself after 15 seconds or so after you shut the car off, but, it only does after you've opened the door AFTER shutting the car off. so, if I get out of the car while it's still running on the timer, and walk away, the alarm never arms unless I wait until after the car has shut off and arm it manually (doesn't that defeat the purpose of the turbo timer?) or I open the door after the car has shut off. again, I still have to sit and wait for it. the car also unlocks the doors after the car shuts off, so even if I get out, lock the door, and walk away, the car unlocks itself.

so, the soultion seemingly would be to cut the wire spliced into the black wire from the ignition as you stated, but since mine automatically arms itself, and it can't tell that the car is running, wouldn't it arm itself while I'm driving, thus setting itself off and making everybody think I'm honking at them. lol.

EDIT: thinking about this a little bit more, would cutting the wire just disable the auto-arming feature altogether and I'd have to arm it manually if I want it to arm at all?

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post Jan 14, 2008 - 11:16 PM
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with most alarms the "auto arm" is a feature that can be turned on or off. Get your manual and program the alarm not to auto arm.


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post Jan 15, 2008 - 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 14, 2008 - 8:16 PM) [snapback]630855[/snapback]

with most alarms the "auto arm" is a feature that can be turned on or off. Get your manual and program the alarm not to auto arm.

the thing is, the alarm was installed on the car by the previous owner, and he didn't give me any manuals or anything. all I know about is is that it is a clifford. I've found some of the components of it, such as the box with an adjusment screw for adjusting the sensitivity. I think I've found the main unit before, but it's way up in the dashboard. if you take out the vent to the left of the steering wheel, you can see part of it, to give you an idea how far up there it is!


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post Jan 15, 2008 - 12:42 AM
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ok ok
it a clifford, now find out what model it is, then google it for the manual.

do you have a valet button for it ? It's a switch or button and usually installed in the left corner kick panel ? That's what you'll probably need to program it.


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post Jan 15, 2008 - 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 14, 2008 - 9:42 PM) [snapback]630885[/snapback]

ok ok
it a clifford, now find out what model it is, then google it for the manual.

do you have a valet button for it ? It's a switch or button and usually installed in the left corner kick panel ? That's what you'll probably need to program it.

yeah, I have a valet switch. I'll try to figure it out when I come home from work today.


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post Jan 16, 2008 - 12:03 PM
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Is the problem with turbo timers the auto arm?
or is it remotely shutting the doors while the car is still running ?


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post Jan 18, 2008 - 6:48 AM
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clifford make their own turbo timer that you can have installed that works with the alarm. I have googled and ebayed endlessly to try to find one that I can install myself but never managed to find someone selling one on its own.

anyone else ever found one?

And I think the main problem with TT and alarms is that your alarm disables the fuel pump and stuff, so if the engine is running and it doesn't know your ignition is still on (cos we cut the black wire earlier!!) then surely it will stop the pump and the engine will starve itself of fuel?

Think thats right.

Dan

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