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post Jun 6, 2008 - 5:02 AM
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hi guys, i'm interested in a 1996 celica ss-3 and the owner came round to my house tonight to give me a test drive, i'm a little confused as to what features were standard in 1996 compared to what i saw keeping in mind it was pitch black.

these were the things i noticed that were ss-3 like:
super strut suspension sticker on the bottom of the rear windscreen
jdm modern tail lights (not a pointer in itself but the ss3's do have the new tail light assembly)
abs brakes icon lights up when key is turned to on
factory toyota 16 inch wheels wrapped in 215/50/r16
steel plated pedals and foot rest similar to what altezza rs200 has

i was wondering about the absence of the following:
air bags
white dash board
beams motor (allthough i know this wasn't available in 1996 the ad stated "SSIII - 200HP" which is the output of the beams and this car had what looked like a regular 3s-ge motor with the inlet manifold curled over the top of the rocker cover -- anyone know if there a revision in hp output in 1996 aswell????)
projector headlights -- were these 1997??


The colour is dark green mica and has a modern shaped front bumper, can anyone confirm what we have here without the full chassis number?


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post Jun 7, 2008 - 6:04 PM
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No airbags is strange. Does it have the high rise spoiler, beams side skirts and front and rear skirts? No BEAMS engine gerenaly means its not a SS3. Maybe a SS2


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post Jun 7, 2008 - 6:21 PM
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QUOTE (Ronan @ Jun 8, 2008 - 12:04 AM) *
No airbags is strange.


You sure it wasn't just the passenger airbag that wasn't there? The steering wheel should be marked as fitted with an airbag, even if it is a 3-spoke.


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post Jun 7, 2008 - 8:29 PM
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I would say it would be an SS-II. Was it on Trademe?

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automatics are for lazy ass drivers who jst want there car so that they can look cool
post Jun 7, 2008 - 9:02 PM
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Well it is a 1996 model and the guy insisted it was an SS-III, according to wikipedia the beams motor was introduced to both the SS-II and SS-III in 1997.

I also noticed it had a red stitched gear knob, not the hardened plastic one like my '95 SS-I, The steering wheel was exactly the same as the one in my '95 SS-I and there was no rectangle cover on the passenger dash side. The spoiler was a modern 3 post wing, not the 2 post on stilts. And yes it is on trademe listed as 1996 toyota celica and no you cant have it tongue.gif It's mineeeeeeeee!!! Stuff the airbags eh, I survived a head on crash with no air bags and I was dinged off my motorcycle causing me to fly, I'm still here lol

If all goes well I'm taking this Celica on Tuesday

This post has been edited by delusionz: Jun 7, 2008 - 9:04 PM


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post Jun 7, 2008 - 11:13 PM
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just ask the guy you're getting it from what the chassis code is. ST202-BLMZF for Manual and ST202-BLPZF for automatic SS-III, all years.

Last part contains 5 or 6 letters.
1) Model type, where the chassis is used for more than one model. All Celicas are B.
2) Body style. C=Coupe. L=Liftback. K=Convertible.
3) Transmission. M=5 speed floor mounted manual. P=4 speed floor mounted automatic.
4) Trim level. S=Sports, normal performance. G=Higher grade. V=Luxury sports. Z=High performance.
5) Engine code. Z=Twincam (high performance), EFI, Turbo. F=Twincam, EFI (high performance). K=Twincam, EFI (economy).
6) Export destination (blank on JDM cars). W=Europe.

SS-I Manual E-ST202-BLMGK; Automatic E-ST202-BLPGK
SS-I 4WS Manual E-ST203-BLMGK; Automatic E-ST203-BLPGK
SS-II Manual E-ST202-BLMVF; Automatic E-ST202-BLPVF
SS-III Manual E-ST202-BLMZF; Automatic E-ST202-BLPZF
Cabriolet Automatic E-ST202C-BKPVF
GT-Four Manual E-ST205-BLMVZ

from celica-club.co.uk

This post has been edited by stetsonaw: Jun 7, 2008 - 11:14 PM


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 12:35 AM
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cheers mate, i already have the link to this information but i haven't got the chassis code from the guy, I'll check it out the day I buy it, I'm pretty sure I want it anyways because even if it is an SS-II, it's still mint cond for the price and has low kms

the car is a manual btw


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 12:53 AM
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well, it's got the SS suspension, strut bar, which means it has the better stabilizer bars, everything else you can add on your own, and the 3sge in that is the same one in mine, roughly 177hp, and it's pretty quick with the 5speed. i just did the auto to manual conversion, and there is a huge difference. enjoy that thing man. can you hyperlink to the car or pm me the link? i tried finding it on trademe, but couldn't. i wanna look at it.


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 1:14 AM
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Theres no photos of it, I'll be sure to take pics of everything

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=159128157

It packed alot of punch in the revs my SS-I didn't have, Completely stock too


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 1:16 AM
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yeah, big BIG difference than the 3sfe and 3sge.


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 1:28 AM
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Yeah, Well I test drove an SS-II with more than double the kms and it was still slow in comparison


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 2:53 AM
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yes JDM rear lights sounds right for that year
ABS yes sounds right
16"??
ahh yup I have those pedals 'Tom's racing pedals', RARE PART
Air Bags yes it should have them
white dash, now I would have thought it would have had that, must have came with the BEAMS motor?
yes he got the HP wrong (he must thought it has a BEAMS 3SGE with VVT-i) this has has 178HP/133kW @ the flywheel
must of got the new headlights to complete the ss-iii look?

also should come with a LSD?

Yes another NZ celica owner thumbsup.gif


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 3:51 AM
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We should have a 6gc meet somewhere in the middle haha


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post Jun 8, 2008 - 4:23 AM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 8, 2008 - 4:51 AM) *
We should have a 6gc meet somewhere in the middle haha


How about in the South?? Hahaha

delusionnz I already have an SS2 and thats enough of a car for me at the moment. You have got to the love the 3SGE motor.

Cant wait to see some pics.


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QUOTE (loll6g @ Nov 6, 2008 - 5:53 AM)
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post Jun 9, 2008 - 4:06 AM
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*bump* can't wait to take this away in 15 hours time biggrin.gif


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post Jun 9, 2008 - 8:59 AM
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The chssis code is located by the wall near the TB, correct?


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post Jun 9, 2008 - 5:25 PM
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on the firewall behind acis is where mine is.


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post Jun 9, 2008 - 7:47 PM
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Yes Indeed it is an SS-III !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - E-ST202-BLMZF biggrin.gif Time for a drive and photos and yay i got a 6gc again!!!! wooohoooo


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269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Jun 9, 2008 - 10:23 PM
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Pictures moved to this thread

This post has been edited by delusionz: Jun 10, 2008 - 3:28 AM


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269awhp / 273ft-lbs

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