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post Jun 13, 2008 - 9:56 AM
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lmao, yeah somewhere its in there, fecking shadows, i shall take a pic at some point, i havent taken any new photos for ages!


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post Jun 13, 2008 - 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (mrgt4 @ Jun 13, 2008 - 3:56 PM) *
lmao, yeah somewhere its in there, fecking shadows, i shall take a pic at some point, i havent taken any new photos for ages!


torch strapped to your head should give enuff light laugh.gif ( just dont use high tack gaffa tape...)
post Jun 13, 2008 - 12:05 PM
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Well i believe it's a GT-Four, and you spanked it Edophus....... If in fact that is your real name.....


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post Jun 13, 2008 - 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (manphibian @ Jun 13, 2008 - 1:05 PM) *
Well i believe it's a GT-Four, and you spanked it Edophus....... If in fact that is your real name.....


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lol hey there manphibian laugh.gif thanks biggrin.gif
post Jun 13, 2008 - 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (Edophus @ Jun 13, 2008 - 6:39 PM) *
QUOTE (manphibian @ Jun 13, 2008 - 1:05 PM) *
Well i believe it's a GT-Four, and you spanked it Edophus....... If in fact that is your real name.....


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lol hey there manphibian laugh.gif thanks biggrin.gif


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post Jun 13, 2008 - 1:02 PM
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QUOTE (manphibian @ Jun 13, 2008 - 1:42 PM) *
QUOTE (Edophus @ Jun 13, 2008 - 6:39 PM) *
QUOTE (manphibian @ Jun 13, 2008 - 1:05 PM) *
Well i believe it's a GT-Four, and you spanked it Edophus....... If in fact that is your real name.....


Zuban! laugh.gif


lol hey there manphibian laugh.gif thanks biggrin.gif


That's Mr manphibian over here if you please. I'm a moderator laugh.gif


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post Jun 13, 2008 - 1:47 PM
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i knew it was you zuban ive just seen this vid on celica club lol!

i agree its a gt4 and some cracking driving on your behalf!

a fwd celica cant flick the back end out like that and still maintain some sort of speed!
post Jun 13, 2008 - 10:22 PM
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nice driving in the 202. Clearly the weight reduction in thr 202 is a big advantage, big enough to ou weigh the awd turbo powa, possibly, 205s are a 13 second car factory, i doubt a ss3 could get a 15.

clearly the 202 was heaps smoother, hitting the apexs, the 205 driver was all over the show, taking corners wide etc. good driving makes a mc massive differance to times.

the long and the short of it is that shouldnt have happened, at least we they ate the scooby snacks.


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post Jun 21, 2008 - 2:11 PM
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Very good driving and very good at taking the corners...! I love the sound of the Beams...!


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post Jun 29, 2008 - 5:26 PM
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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Jun 13, 2008 - 11:22 PM) *
nice driving in the 202. Clearly the weight reduction in thr 202 is a big advantage, big enough to ou weigh the awd turbo powa, possibly, 205s are a 13 second car factory, i doubt a ss3 could get a 15.

clearly the 202 was heaps smoother, hitting the apexs, the 205 driver was all over the show, taking corners wide etc. good driving makes a mc massive differance to times.

the long and the short of it is that shouldnt have happened, at least we they ate the scooby snacks.



st205's get great 1/4 mile times partly down to the 4wd knocking seconds off at launch time, once rolling my ss3 being much lighter there really isnt anything in it, stock an ss3 wont crack 15 seconds but i think mine would, with a trap speed over 100mph hopefully!, my old corolla managed bang on 15 seconds at 99mph and my ss3 is faster once rolling, its never been a great car off the line.

The funny thing is the st205 would need to find 5-6 seconds a lap, as i was on average 5-6 seconds a lap slower than i'd managed there before with a car some 100kg + heavier, as i'd made some adjustements that shifted to much weight back over the rear wheels and i was getting loads of understeer, and i was trying a different rear wing out, that for sure made the rear very planted but was costing me about 15mph top speed down the straight.

I think i'll have to rope my freind and his st205 into a drag race and see which one is quicker laugh.gif

oh and thanks for all the comments about my driving chaps!

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post Jun 29, 2008 - 7:53 PM
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Need to let you compare the beams to the V6 when I get her back m8. Handling won't be on par with your beastie though biggrin.gif


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post Jul 1, 2008 - 4:05 PM
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QUOTE (frisp @ Jun 29, 2008 - 8:53 PM) *
Need to let you compare the beams to the V6 when I get her back m8. Handling won't be on par with your beastie though biggrin.gif


yes you will biggrin.gif

i dunno about handling mine has a tendancy to either try to throw me off the road or ground itself out on some pebbles laugh.gif
post Apr 7, 2009 - 5:09 AM
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It definitely looked like a gt4 infront to me, nice driving in the ss3.. I've had both cars, i like the cornering in the ss3 because of the superstrut the car turns the corner just as the wheels are pointed nomatter what while the gt4 has the same but its overridden by the rear wheels having the power to kick its arse out.

the gt4 dude wasnt following any racing lines and im puzzled as to why his 2nd gear didnt pull him far away from you out of the medium corners


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post Aug 7, 2009 - 6:05 PM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Apr 7, 2009 - 6:09 AM) *
It definitely looked like a gt4 infront to me, nice driving in the ss3.. I've had both cars, i like the cornering in the ss3 because of the superstrut the car turns the corner just as the wheels are pointed nomatter what while the gt4 has the same but its overridden by the rear wheels having the power to kick its arse out.

the gt4 dude wasnt following any racing lines and im puzzled as to why his 2nd gear didnt pull him far away from you out of the medium corners


Thanks, i appreciate all the comments about the driving, and nice to see someone else who appreciates the superstrut smile.gif

the reason he didnt pull away in 2nd is simple..... because he couldnt wink.gif

if i was running my road tyres and no wing i'd have popped it past him on the straight no problem....

my freind has an st205 with induction/exhaust and my ss3 fully loaded with 4 spare wheels/tyres, tools, jack and luggage for a few days track fun was an even match, when empty it was a good match for the local evo 5's and 6's which usually had the basic exhaust mods etc, road wheels were trd forged alloys that were light as a feather and 215/40/r16 tyres to gear it down slightly, power to weight is a wonderfull thing biggrin.gif

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post Aug 12, 2009 - 7:11 AM
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Superstrut is good, I wouldn't trade it for coilovers, ever.

I have a 96 GT4, I sold my 96 SS-III to my partner, the GT4 is definitely faster, I swear it is, even though it doesn't look like it when watching the speedometer, the amount of distance on the road covered is alot greater, like being able to leap into far away distances with a simple 'vrmmmm pshh' instead of a long bwaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

However our SS-III is only Gen 3 3S-GE, not Beams, so that might be alot closer to the GT4.

I watched that video again, nice driving again.


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post Aug 12, 2009 - 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 12, 2009 - 8:11 AM) *
Superstrut is good, I wouldn't trade it for coilovers, ever.

I have a 96 GT4, I sold my 96 SS-III to my partner, the GT4 is definitely faster, I swear it is, even though it doesn't look like it when watching the speedometer, the amount of distance on the road covered is alot greater, like being able to leap into far away distances with a simple 'vrmmmm pshh' instead of a long bwaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

However our SS-III is only Gen 3 3S-GE, not Beams, so that might be alot closer to the GT4.

I watched that video again, nice driving again.


thanks!

yeah to put it in perspective though as stock my beams wasnt as quick as a gt4, but my ss3 was gutted completely by the point of that video, no aircon, no interior, no soundproofing, lightweight seats, with power to weight similar to a gt4 with basic mods, and it performed like that, super lightweight forged trd rims at only 5.7 kg each and low profile tyres helped gear it down a bit, damn thing felt like it was turbo charged at that point. I never modded the engine though, problem with the ss3, even the beams is its a heavy car really for the power, sort out the weight issue and it really comes alive. I was running trd superstrut coilovers which cost a ton but were frikking awsome!, i doubt i'll ever drive a fwd car that good again.

Also I built an adapter loom if its of interest to people so you can use a 1zz-fe power-fc to control the beams engine, it doesnt take very much to get it working just half a dozen wires moved/spliced. heres a vid of testing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J53g-533eGU

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He's back! How you doing mate? What you got now? Did you have a 185 or have i completely made that up? smile.gif


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post Aug 12, 2009 - 5:05 PM
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QUOTE (manphibian @ Aug 12, 2009 - 1:55 PM) *
He's back! How you doing mate? What you got now? Did you have a 185 or have i completely made that up? smile.gif


how do! i have a st182 at the moment as my daily driver, building up a 1984 gen3 celica with a blacktop beams and 6 speed box in it at the moment biggrin.gif just begun fabricating the engine mounts tonight, cant wait to get it finished!. My beams redtop engine has gone to soul45 on ccuk, he's rebuilding it for boost biggrin.gif
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Awesome smile.gif

Make sure you put some pics up on here biggrin.gif


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post Aug 13, 2009 - 6:22 AM
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Why does it need to be changed change to 1zz-fe ecu if you have the power-fc? doesn't the power-fc alone let u raise the rev limiter? does it not control a standalone ignition system or even the stock ignition system?

I'd understand if u were using an safc, but a power-fc?


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